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What are chances U.S. doesn't qualify for World Cup?

Posted on 6/7/12 at 12:10 pm
Posted by TigerBoy85
Member since Feb 2008
964 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 12:10 pm
With qualifying starting tomorrow, I am curious if anybody thinks we won't get through to Brazil 2014. What do you think would have to happen for us to not qualify?

Posted by Meursault
Member since Sep 2003
25262 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 12:12 pm to
Well the hex is probably going to be brutal:

USA
Mexico
Honduras
Costa Rica
Panama
Jamaica

We should qualify, but it's not a given. It never is. The away matches will all be difficult.
Posted by Tweezy
west of east
Member since Apr 2008
12158 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 12:13 pm to
it'll be next round that we would slip up and i'd say about a 22% chance. injuries are a funny thing and could squash the team quick if the right players got hurt. bags of piss will be thrown and not many goals will be scored, i just hope we can get results away from home.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
45206 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 12:14 pm to
I wouldnt be shocked. No disrespect to the board here, but we dont look the part right now - not even close.
Posted by TigerBoy85
Member since Feb 2008
964 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 12:14 pm to
Maybe I should pose the question as 1. What are the odds that we don't get out of this first group; then 2. What are the odds we don't get out of the hexagonal; then 3. If we don't make it out of the hexagonal, who would you think would qualify in our place?

We only need to be top 4 to at least get into a playoff right? And isn't our playoff with like the Oceania winner or something? That can't be the worst thing in the world.
Posted by Meursault
Member since Sep 2003
25262 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 12:16 pm to
quote:

but we dont look the part right now - not even close.


It's early. Who in the concacaf outside of Mexico does?

We have to finish in top 3 for an automatic, or in 4th for a playoff against a CONMEBOL team (frick that).
Posted by Tweezy
west of east
Member since Apr 2008
12158 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 12:17 pm to
1. 1%
2. 20-25%
3. ehh costa rica and mexico would be my guess.

im not sure what the playoff is, i just know 2/3 teams auto qualify (cant remember) and i dont want to frick around with any sort of play in games
This post was edited on 6/7/12 at 12:18 pm
Posted by Meursault
Member since Sep 2003
25262 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 12:18 pm to
We'll make it out of the group. Of that you be assured.

As for the hex of US doesn't make it, Mexico, Costa Rica, and Panama could easily take the top 3. Honduras will be quality as well.
Posted by TigerBoy85
Member since Feb 2008
964 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 12:22 pm to
quote:

We have to finish in top 3 for an automatic, or in 4th for a playoff against a CONMEBOL team (frick that).


No, we are matched up with Oceania's top team. Asia and CONMEBOL are matched up. That is very good for us.
Posted by Meursault
Member since Sep 2003
25262 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 12:24 pm to
quote:

No, we are matched up with Oceania's top team. Asia and CONMEBOL are matched up. That is very good for us.


I did not realize that. That is huge for us and for CONCACAF.
This post was edited on 6/7/12 at 12:25 pm
Posted by Bho
Lexington
Member since Dec 2007
24814 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 12:29 pm to
1)0.05%
2)20%


I have a hard time believing we won't be top 4.
Posted by DestrehanTiger
Houston, TX by way of Louisiana
Member since Nov 2005
13687 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 12:39 pm to
I know nothing is guaranteed with the USMNT, but I really feel like a home and away with New Zealand basically cements a World Cup spot with a top 4 finish.
This post was edited on 6/7/12 at 12:40 pm
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
21120 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 12:40 pm to
1. Small enough that I'm not worried about it.
2. 10% we don't finish top 3. About 3 percent we don't qualify.
This post was edited on 6/7/12 at 1:08 pm
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
30136 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 12:50 pm to
1. I think there is a 0 percent chance we don't get out of the first group.
2. I would say 15%. This team has the talent and I would like to see Jurgy's plan start firing on all cylinders. Like others here I'm very worried about injuries because we have no depth.
Posted by Sheep
Neither here nor there
Member since Jun 2007
19699 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 12:51 pm to


0%, barring the actual death of Donovan, Dempsey and/or Howard.

The boys will perform when the lights come on. We'll drop points here and there, but will finish 4th (or better) in the hex.
Posted by TigerBoy85
Member since Feb 2008
964 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 12:54 pm to
Not trying to troll at all. I love National Team Soccer and have been making a big effort to learn more about it.
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
21120 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 1:05 pm to
quote:

0%, barring the actual death of Donovan, Dempsey and/or Howard.

The boys will perform when the lights come on. We'll drop points here and there, but will finish 4th (or better) in the hex.


Aren't you the one who has normally brought up the possibility of not qualifying?
Posted by NOTORlOUSD
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2010
5051 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 1:08 pm to
quote:

1. Small enough that I'm not worried about it.
2. 10%.

This. The round-robin nature of the second group benefits the deeper teams. We can afford a bad result or two, especially on the road, and still advance.
Posted by WarSlamEagle
Manchester United Fan
Member since Sep 2011
24611 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 1:13 pm to
quote:

I wouldnt be shocked. No disrespect to the board here, but we dont look the part right now - not even close.

Last three friendlies:
- Offensive explosion
- Grow up fast game
- Sucked into tired and lazy play

This team looks better than our last few teams in my opinion...we get the game experience to go with our physical advantage, and we'll be back in easily. 0.01% chance that we don't qualify for 2014.
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
21120 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 1:22 pm to
quote:

This. The round-robin nature of the second group benefits the deeper teams. We can afford a bad result or two, especially on the road, and still advance.


Honestly, 10% even seems a little high to me when I think about it. The fact is that we're flat better than all these teams except Mexico. Also, if we don't get out to a great start, we'll probably just be more likely to start our top players and give new guys less of a chance while we try and catch up. I just find it hard to envision teams like Honduras beating us over 10 games.
This post was edited on 6/7/12 at 1:23 pm
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