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USA Rosters vs. European Rosters

Posted on 4/14/15 at 3:14 pm
Posted by Patch
Westlake, TX
Member since Jan 2010
2662 posts
Posted on 4/14/15 at 3:14 pm
I know most of you follow Euro soccer so do many of you feel the same way I do when seeing Klinsmann announce our rosters? I take a look at Germany, England, France, Spain, Belgium, Italy, hell, the swiss and Croatians, and I am in utter awe when I see the god young players coming through and making these rosters. Then I look at our roster and can only feel that US soccer has taken an entirely large dump on our development. I see names like wondo, morris, agudelo, Ibarra, corona, besler, evans etc. Im just saying to me... I get depressed when I see our roster. I do lik Yedlin, Green, Beckerman (sometimes), Bradley but for the most part, we have nothing to be excited about. Just curious what other posters thoughts are...
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
30134 posts
Posted on 4/14/15 at 3:26 pm to
We are a young footballing nation just now figuring out how to develop proper players. Give us time. If you are still disappointed by the names on our roster when you compare them to Germany, France, Spain, etc in 50 or even 25 years, I will understand your disappointment.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
83389 posts
Posted on 4/14/15 at 3:28 pm to
I'm not sure what you expected with this roster. None of our euro based players were going to come stateside for a one off game against Mexico.

Teams experiment with A, B, and C squads all of the time.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126858 posts
Posted on 4/14/15 at 3:39 pm to
give it another 15 to 20 years when the MLS academies start really producing and they are snapped up by the big euros or they stay home to improve the MLS for a few years.

Also lots of our best youth players are learning their trade at some of the best academies in the world like Barca, Dortmund, Chelsea etc.
Posted by 225bred
COYS
Member since Jun 2011
21088 posts
Posted on 4/14/15 at 4:00 pm to
Ditto what these other posters have said
But look at a lot of the youth we have in top clubs' academies around the world. Future is bright believe it or not
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
30134 posts
Posted on 4/14/15 at 5:06 pm to
quote:

Chelsea

I know we have Kyle Scott there, but what notable players have come from this academy? Not putting down the argument, just not aware of any.
Posted by Patch
Westlake, TX
Member since Jan 2010
2662 posts
Posted on 4/14/15 at 7:50 pm to
quote:

I'm not sure what you expected with this roster. None of our euro based players were going to come stateside for a one off game against Mexico. Teams experiment with A, B, and C squads all of the time.
what good European talent is there??? Yedlin is on the roster and so is green, so who are you referring to? Not sure I know anymore players in Europe who were not going for a "one off game"
Posted by Dijkstra
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 4/14/15 at 8:05 pm to
quote:

We are a young footballing nation just now figuring out how to develop proper players. Give us time. If you are still disappointed by the names on our roster when you compare them to Germany, France, Spain, etc in 50 or even 25 years, I will understand your disappointment.


This is really the important thing to keep in mind. We've taken the sport seriously for maybe 20 years? It's natural to want to be great immediately, but it's not as simple as that. People who have grown up in this boom are just coming of age, and the sport is just starting to get really popular. It'll take a few generations.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
51416 posts
Posted on 4/14/15 at 8:16 pm to
quote:

We've taken the sport seriously for maybe 20 years?

Sport was taken more seriously eons ago, however. It was dropped with the quickness, between American sports mushrooming, and seeing how good other nations which a priori were considered inferior, were.
Posted by Dijkstra
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 4/14/15 at 8:41 pm to
Outside of 1930 and the Cosmos in that NASL era, it's never been close to what it is now. I mean, it's been up and down in the States, but it's never been this consistent. The sport's been on the incline for some time, which is hasn't happened before. Not to mention, the Internet has really created a global community that allows Americans to watch world class football consistently and develop connections to teams and leagues. The sport is here to stay in the US, and this generation's love of the game is going to start our ascendance. Personally, I'm going to have my kids (when I actually have any) playing really young and give them all the chances to develop. People weren't doing that really in the past.
Posted by Fratastic423
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 4/14/15 at 10:05 pm to
quote:

what good European talent is there??? Yedlin is on the roster and so is green, so who are you referring to? Not sure I know anymore players in Europe who were not going for a "one off game"


What?? If we look at our wc roster: johanson, Brooks, bedoya, Chandler, Johnson all play in Europe. Recently Rubio and Boyd shown potential then there are the quality fringe players in Europe as well that are probably better than some of the guys on this camps roster. Sure I'm forgetting some as well
Posted by Bigpoppat
Drinking a Manhattan
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 4/14/15 at 10:28 pm to
Beckerman is 32
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
83389 posts
Posted on 4/14/15 at 11:01 pm to
quote:

Not sure I know anymore players in Europe who were not going for a "one off game"


Uhhh... Fab, Brooks, Timmy C.

Seriously, did you watch the World Cup?
Posted by Patch
Westlake, TX
Member since Jan 2010
2662 posts
Posted on 4/15/15 at 7:53 am to
Fab seems to have gone backwards since the wc and brooks was absolutely dreadful the last time he wore the American shirt. I like chandler, but I still don't see him as a top quality player. This three players are fringe players that are c's and borderline b players
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126858 posts
Posted on 4/15/15 at 8:28 am to
Dude fabs game def has not been going backwards

He has been killing it in the bundesliga

He gave Bayern fits the other week

Fab is not a fringe player at all
This post was edited on 4/15/15 at 8:30 am
Posted by mynamebowl
Houston
Member since Jun 2012
1712 posts
Posted on 4/15/15 at 11:26 am to
quote:

Fab seems to have gone backwards since the wc and brooks was absolutely dreadful the last time he wore the American shirt. I like chandler, but I still don't see him as a top quality player. This three players are fringe players that are c's and borderline b players


Chandler, yes. Fab and Brooks, not even close. Fab is one of our 4 or 5 most important players. And if you can't see the immense potential in John Brooks, you should watch more closely. The guy has everything needed to be a top CB. He's young. CB's take longer to develop and typically hit their peak years a little later. I agree with you on Chandler, though.
This post was edited on 4/15/15 at 11:27 am
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 4/15/15 at 11:34 am to
quote:

Fab and Brooks, not even close. Fab is one of our 4 or 5 most important players. And if you can't see the immense potential in John Brooks, you should watch more closely. The guy has everything needed to be a top CB. He's young. CB's take longer to develop and typically hit their peak years a little later. I agree with you on Chandler, though.


Fab also has been playing in the midfield for his club, which he doesn't do for us and Brooks has been praised by many in the Bundesliga for being one of the most surprising and consistent young players.

These two are definitely doing well.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
30134 posts
Posted on 4/15/15 at 12:43 pm to
From everything I've read, Chandler, Brooks, and Johnson have all been solid in Bundesliga play. Morales has been playing well for Ingolstadt, and Danny Williams has been good for Reading (just to name another Germerican).
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