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re: tOfficial Liverpool 2017/2018 Thread: “Upgrades Incoming Edition: A Great Season!”

Posted on 8/24/17 at 11:52 am to
Posted by Meursault
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Posted on 8/24/17 at 11:52 am to
Group of Life
Posted by TheIrishFro
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Posted on 8/24/17 at 11:53 am to
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Posted by beatbammer
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Posted on 8/24/17 at 11:56 am to
Like it like it like it LIKE IT!
Posted by beatbammer
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Posted on 8/24/17 at 12:17 pm to
Someone commenter at This Is Anfield calculated the group coefficients and here's how they turned out:

Groups by coefficient

Group H: Real Madrid, Borussia Dortmund, Tottenham, Apoel Nicosia 405.3
Group D: Juventus, Barcelona, Olympiakos, Sporting Clube de Portugal 394.111
Group B: Bayern Munich, Paris St-Germain, Anderlecht, Celtic 382.857
Group A: Benfica, Manchester United, Basel, CSKA Moscow 321.069
Group C: Chelsea, Atlético Madrid, Roma, Qarabag 320.907
Group F: Shakhtar Donetsk, Manchester City, Napoli, Feyenoord 299.596
Group G: Monaco, Porto, Besiktas, Leipzig 222.938
Group E: Spartak Moscow, Sevilla, Liverpool, Maribor 208.922
Posted by Tigerfan7218
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Posted on 8/24/17 at 12:26 pm to
I mean I don't put much in to the coefficients tbh, but this isn't surprising, it is clearly a weak group... I know we were happy to make the group stage, but no excuse not to advance to the knockout round now imo
Posted by white beans
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Posted on 8/24/17 at 12:32 pm to
hoping bobby's celebration makes it into fifa at some point, still laughing

my sides

Posted by Tigerfan7218
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 8/24/17 at 2:15 pm to
quote:

Matchday 1 – September 13 – Sevilla (H)
Matchday 2 – September 26 – Spartak Moscow (A)
Matchday 3 – October 17 – Maribor (A)
Matchday 4 – November 1 – Maribor (H)
Matchday 5 – November 21 – Sevilla (A)
Matchday 6 – December 6 – Spartak Moscow (H)


Group Dates confirmed... Even the schedule shapes up nice for us, set a tone in game 1 with Sevilla at Anfield, payback is a bitch
Posted by Tigerstark
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Posted on 8/24/17 at 3:44 pm to
Plus Moscow away in September and not November or December.

not going to pretend to know what a trip to Slovenia would be like, but at least its in October as well.
Posted by Cash
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Posted on 8/24/17 at 3:47 pm to
We are going to throw the league cup game right.
Posted by Cash
Vail
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Posted on 8/24/17 at 3:48 pm to
quote:

a trip to Slovenia would be like,


Sign me up
Posted by Meursault
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Posted on 8/24/17 at 4:15 pm to
While I'm definitely glad that we didn't end up in one of the most difficult groups, I am kind of bummed that we won't see one of the 'big boys' until we advance further. It feels like we've been fighting to finally get out of Europa League only to end up in the Europa League group. And yeah, I know Sevilla is real quality, and so is Spartak probably... but I would have loved to get a Barca.
Posted by Cash
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Posted on 8/24/17 at 4:38 pm to
I kinda agree.

I'm thrilled we got Spartek out of Pot 1 and avoided Red Bull from Pot 4, but I almost would trade Atletico or Barca for Sevilla.
Posted by Tigerfan7218
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Posted on 8/24/17 at 6:28 pm to
I get where you're coming from, but at the same time, I'd like to see us progress in this competition this year, plus wouldn't it be sweet to knock those Barca fricks out of the comp?
Posted by beatbammer
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Posted on 8/24/17 at 6:32 pm to
Gini received a precious gift from God after the big win over Hoffenheim.

Posted by Tigerfan7218
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 8/24/17 at 6:34 pm to
Wow, that's amazing!
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 8/24/17 at 6:41 pm to
Also, a look inside the VVD-Southampton spat via the Ireland Independent...

https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/premier-league/the-inside-story-on-why-virgil-van-dijks-reputation-at-southampton-is-shattered-and-why-they-should-sell-him-now-36062647.html

quote:

It remains to be seen whether that kind of harmony can be restored between Southampton and Van Dijk, after Independent.ie were given a glimpse in a feud between Saints officials and the Dutchman’s management company that started long before this summer’s stand-off over a move to Liverpool.

Van Dijk is represented by the same group that also manage the business affairs of former Southampton manager Ronald Koeman, with the overly aggressive and abrasive approach taken by the Dutchman and his management team over his move to Everton last summer leaving lasting animosity on both sides.
So when Van Dijk and his agent strode in for a meeting with Southampton officials back in May and confirmed that he had decided to leave the club and wanted to join Liverpool, the tension that lingered from a year earlier was reignited.

When Southampton officials then learned that Van Dijk and his advisers had already held talks with Liverpool (and Manchester City and Chelsea) over a move without their permission, Saints Sporting Director Les Reed vowed to ensure his club would not be bullied into a deal to sell their prized asset.


So 1. VVD is paying for the prior sins of Ronald Koeman (at least as to how Southampton see it, I guess) and 2. seems like Liverpool has had to pay for the sins of at least 3 major EPL squads, not just their own.

quote:

Southampton are doing their bit to confirm that players do not hold all the power when it comes to deciding their destiny, but Van Dijk has gone to such lengths to try and secure a route out of the club that you wonder how Saints fans will react to him if he lines up in their colours for the first time since January 22nd when Saints play Watford at St Mary’s Stadium on September 9th.

Just 55 games into his Premier League career, Van Dijk has suddenly been cast as the most valuable defender in world football and after Southampton signed his fellow Dutchman Wesley Hoedt from Lazio on Tuesday, they have enough defensive quality to thrive this season without their disillusioned former leader.

We have long gone beyond the point of conflict resolution in Van Dijk’s shattered relationship with Southampton, so if a £70m offer was made by Chelsea or Liverpool in the coming days, all parties in this messy and unpleasant spat would be wise to end their war and go their separate ways.


In other words, Southampton need to grow the frick up and do what's best for their team instead of holding their breath until they turn purple.
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 8/24/17 at 7:04 pm to
Is this a sneaky shot at Phil by Klopp?

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/jurgen-klopp-reveals-emre-can-13521607

quote:

Jurgen Klopp hailed Emre Can for playing through illness after the midfielder's first half double sent Liverpool on their way to the Champions League group stages at Anfield.


Posted by Waffle House
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Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 8/24/17 at 8:08 pm to
I'm bummed Gini hit the post now
Posted by Waffle House
NYC
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 8/24/17 at 8:11 pm to
quote:

"Even if you try to extend a contract with a player in the squad they say 'yeah, I want to play Champions League'. I always thing 'WTF, it's your job to do it with us together. Don't ask for us to do your job to play Champions League let's do it together.'


Preach on Klopp
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38811 posts
Posted on 8/24/17 at 8:16 pm to
Yeah, I love that fricking quote. Hell yes.
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