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re: Tim Howard out several weeks with 2 fractures in back

Posted on 3/8/13 at 8:33 pm to
Posted by Dandy Lion
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Posted on 3/8/13 at 8:33 pm to
2 fractures only take weeks to heal?
Posted by Sheep
Neither here nor there
Member since Jun 2007
19486 posts
Posted on 3/8/13 at 8:59 pm to
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2 fractures only take weeks to heal?


If it's ribs, then it's possible.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
29-24 #BlewDat
Member since Dec 2010
31061 posts
Posted on 3/8/13 at 9:15 pm to
quote:

Friedel is long gone, Marcus hasn't played regularly since Reading were relegated from the epl several years ago.

He played for Wolves not terribly long ago. I can always fap to bringing Wolverhampton players on to the USMNT.

Actually, probably not, since they all are fricking horrendous.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
50248 posts
Posted on 3/8/13 at 9:21 pm to
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If it's ribs, then it's possible.
It's his back. That's why I'm amazed. Then again, it could be fifty one weeks.
This post was edited on 3/8/13 at 9:22 pm
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
7797 posts
Posted on 3/8/13 at 9:22 pm to
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Guzan has had an incredible season.


I was wondering how good he's been in general as I haven't seen most of Villa's matches but he's been simply superb in every match I have seen. So much so as to say as good as any keeper in the EPL just from my limited viewing perspective.

Him replacing Howard would be the least of my worries.
Posted by cwil177
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Member since Jun 2011
28423 posts
Posted on 3/8/13 at 9:27 pm to
I'm more worried about our shoddy back line and our lack of offensive production from the midfield.
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
Member since Aug 2008
28614 posts
Posted on 3/8/13 at 10:57 pm to
I would feel as confident with Guzan as Howard.
Posted by UASports23
Member since Nov 2009
24345 posts
Posted on 3/8/13 at 11:03 pm to
Brad Guzan has had to deal with 148 shots on goal. 49 goals. 67.3%

Tim Howard has had to deal with 102 shots on goal. 34 goals. 67.3%


Just thought it was interesting.
This post was edited on 3/8/13 at 11:07 pm
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
50248 posts
Posted on 3/8/13 at 11:05 pm to
quote:

There has been 148 shots against Brad Guzan this year. 49 goals.


There has been 102 shots against Tim Howard this year. 34 goals.

Just thought it was interesting.

what would the good ole US of A be without stats?
Posted by cwil177
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Posted on 3/8/13 at 11:50 pm to
The USA is the only country that uses stats?

I think it's more impressive from Guzan, simply from the sheer number of shots he's had to face. Also, so many of his saves are finger tip/diving etc. Everton's D is better so I would imagine the shots Howard is facing, are, on average, further from the goal, weaker, etc.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
50248 posts
Posted on 3/9/13 at 12:03 am to
Most stats are meaningless in soccer. Soccer is akin to horse racing. You must watch, observe, and take copious notes.
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
Member since Aug 2008
28614 posts
Posted on 3/9/13 at 12:27 am to
Not really. There are tons of very effective metrics used. Passing %, passing amount, chances created, second assists, conversion %, shots on target %, save %, tackle win %, minute per loss of possession, minute per error, etc.

I love stats, but I hate when people use them to argue between which player is better than the other. Sometimes it can be effectively used, while others I'd just like to trust my eyes.
Posted by Jumbeauxlaya
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
18083 posts
Posted on 3/9/13 at 12:30 am to
I tend to agree that stats are a very small part of the picture of a player
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
7797 posts
Posted on 3/9/13 at 1:28 am to
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There are tons of very effective metrics used. Passing %, passing amount, chances created, second assists, conversion %, shots on target %, save %, tackle win %, minute per loss of possession, minute per error, etc.



Which sites for stats do you prefer?

I like them too and agree that a lot of the ones you mention are interesting. My one complaint with a lot of stats is simply that they could be so much more sophisticated.


Stats like 2nd assists, chances created, successful through balls accentuate the effect of the type players I've always loved to watch. Actual finishes are seldom as impressive as those slightly-grazed back heals that start the dominoes' fall.

With others like chance conversion percentage, for example, I tend to think they often tell us more about the type chances a certain striker is getting than his quality. I suppose it's good remedy for the misconception that the strikers for your team always miss more chances than others.


Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/9/13 at 2:09 am to
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Most stats are meaningless in soccer. Soccer is akin to horse racing. You must watch, observe, and take copious notes.

everything can be broken down into objective evidence. it's just finding the right evidence that translates to success
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
Member since Aug 2008
28614 posts
Posted on 3/9/13 at 2:13 am to
I use EPLindex. It's extremely comprehensive for the Prem.

quote:

With others like chance conversion percentage, for example, I tend to think they often tell us more about the type chances a certain striker is getting than his quality. I suppose it's good remedy for the misconception that the strikers for your team always miss more chances than others.


They have additional stats to accompany those. Clear-cut chance conversion % being one of them.

I also like graphics. Heat maps are very interesting. As are shot placement graphics. Really shows the tendencies of a player and how good their shooting ability is.
Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
22269 posts
Posted on 3/9/13 at 12:01 pm to
bradley h friedel ?@friedel_b
GK situation US: YOU ARE IN GREAT HANDS WITH GUZAN!!!! If he was also hurt of course I would consider helping until Tim and Brad were fit!!
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
Member since Aug 2008
28614 posts
Posted on 3/9/13 at 12:01 pm to
Posted by Leauxgan
Brooklyn
Member since Nov 2005
17324 posts
Posted on 3/9/13 at 12:35 pm to
always knew Howard the Duck was a little baby back bitch

not like José de Jesús Corona
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
70777 posts
Posted on 3/9/13 at 12:44 pm to
That tweet makes me happy, because it shows that Friedel still remembers that he is American.
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