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The rise of the Bundesliga and the fall of La Liga

Posted on 8/20/12 at 11:36 pm
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
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Posted on 8/20/12 at 11:36 pm
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Interesting article. The Spanish-bashing was a bit much, but the author does live in Spain. So take that FWIW.
Posted by Friend of OBUDan
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 8/20/12 at 11:46 pm to
Spain's academies still are probably the best around, but its not good for the league to lose guys like Martinez, Llorente, Cazorla, etc every year.
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 8/20/12 at 11:51 pm to
No doubt. The problem (as the article stated) is that those academy players aren't breaking through at the top 2 clubs. They are being moved on. And the TV revenue from the smaller clubs is so little that they are more willing to cash in on their players (Javi).

Mata, Cazorla, Silva, Javi (soon to be), Llorente (if the rumors are to be believed), Aguero, De Gea, Toure, etc.

Sidenote...Guti: best passer ever? I haven't heard his name in a while. Dude was unreal. Too bad he was nuts.
This post was edited on 8/20/12 at 11:52 pm
Posted by inelishaitrust
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 8/21/12 at 12:33 am to


Bundesliga is kicking some arse right now as far as attendance is concerned.
Posted by Tweezy
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Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 8/21/12 at 12:40 am to
the league has made an effort to keep ticket prices down as opposed to the higher ticket prices in the epl to make sure fans can still afford them, after all basically all the teams are majority fan owned. it does hurt the teams a little in terms of revenue, but the league is obviously not hurting that much
Posted by inelishaitrust
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Posted on 8/21/12 at 12:46 am to
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the league has made an effort to keep ticket prices down as opposed to the higher ticket prices in the epl to make sure fans can still afford them, after all basically all the teams are majority fan owned. it does hurt the teams a little in terms of revenue, but the league is obviously not hurting that much


If German ticket prices are just 75.6% of EPL ticket prices, then they're bringing in the same amount of revenue.
Posted by Tweezy
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Posted on 8/21/12 at 1:04 am to
the average ticket in the bundesliga 10/11 season was 22 euros. the cheapest seat in most epl stadiums is a little more than that
Posted by cwil177
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Posted on 8/21/12 at 8:01 am to
Damn. The Chinese are beating us. Didn't expect that.
Posted by Tennessee Jed
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Posted on 8/21/12 at 8:29 am to
Bundesliga stadiums are bigger on average too. Just guessing, but I think that's accurate.
Posted by Burt Reynolds
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Posted on 8/21/12 at 8:33 am to
who in bundesliga is good besides bayern?
Posted by Tennessee Jed
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Posted on 8/21/12 at 8:38 am to
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who in bundesliga is good besides bayern?


Schalke, Leverkusen, Dortmund, Bremen, Stuttgart.

There are quite a few big, succesful clubs in the Bundesliga. It's lost on the casual fan, because they're not as prevelant on American TV sets.
Posted by cwil177
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Posted on 8/21/12 at 8:55 am to
Great article. Thanks for posting.

I have to say that I agreed with just about everything in the article.

The current economic climate certainly helps Germany. He hinted at it, but I think he could have expanded on that a bit more.
Posted by j1897
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 8/21/12 at 8:57 am to
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Schalke, Leverkusen, Dortmund, Bremen, Stuttgart. There are quite a few big, succesful clubs in the Bundesliga. It's lost on the casual fan, because they're not as prevelant on American TV sets.


No, it's because they get destroyed in th champions league.
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 8/21/12 at 8:58 am to
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who in bundesliga is good besides bayern?


On a European level nobody really. Someone might make an odd CL run like Schalke a couple of years back but outside of Bayern there are no true European powers.
This post was edited on 8/21/12 at 9:04 am
Posted by Tennessee Jed
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Posted on 8/21/12 at 9:02 am to
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On a European level nobody really. Someone might make an odd CL run like Schalke a couple of years back but outside of Bayern there are no true European powers.


they should learn to play more like Chelsea, just stack 9 men in the penalty area, and let one hover around mid field.

real man football.
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 8/21/12 at 9:07 am to
Truth hurt that bad?

Any team in the Bundesliga would do it in a second, if they could, for one of these...

Posted by Tennessee Jed
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Posted on 8/21/12 at 9:12 am to
quote:

Truth hurt that bad?


doesn't hurt at all. I'm totally unbiased when it comes to these things.

Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 8/21/12 at 9:15 am to
Maybe but your completely irrelevant and unncecessary response to my factual post suggests otherwise.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 8/21/12 at 9:22 am to
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Guti

he's probably 36 or 37, and physically, 50+.

Mentally fragile (as are most geniuses).
This post was edited on 8/21/12 at 11:15 am
Posted by Tennessee Jed
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Posted on 8/21/12 at 9:22 am to
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Maybe but your completely irrelevant and unncecessary response to my factual post suggests otherwise


I find yours, and others, desire to associate themselves with a winner based off their love of a video game humerous.
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