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re: The real problem with the USMNT

Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:12 am to
Posted by itawambadog
America, F Yeah!
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:12 am to
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There is a reason why the women dominate , it’s bc women’s soccer doesn’t compete for athletes with any other sport.


So women don't play other sports in this country? I'm sure we've had a pro women's basketball league longer than one for soccer. Also, I believe women's tennis has been around for a good while.
Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
13382 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:14 am to
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All your big strong fast kids do play already. They have garbage coaches who think that is skill. Then they hit 15 with no quality touch, inability to read the game, and no composure on the ball.


cc: Gyasi Zardes
Posted by itawambadog
America, F Yeah!
Member since Nov 2007
21266 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:25 am to
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cc: Gyasi Zardes



But hey let's send home the teen that's already played at a higher level than Zardes ever has.
Posted by michael corleone
baton rouge
Member since Jun 2005
5807 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:29 am to
I feel confident that everyone outside of soccer involved in athletics will make the same suggestion to you guys.Foster Moreau at 6’5” 250 ran a 4.6 /4.7 at the combine. I assure you if he was put on the soccer track at five years old and dedicated himself to it like he did to football he could easily be on the back line of the US men’s national team. You can’t tell me Jacob pastor is not a better athlete than Alexis Lalas, one of the better backline defenders we have ever had. You can’t tell me that any NFL running back from the last 30 years would not be a better striker than Landon Donovan if he had the sa I assure you if he was put on a soccer track at five years old and dedicated himself to it like he did to football he could easily be on the back line of the US men’s national team. You can’t tell me Jacob pastor is not a better athlete than Alexis Lalas, one of the better backline defenders we have ever had. You can’t tell me that any NFL running back from the last 30 years would not be a better striker than Landon Donovan if he had chosen to apply himself to soccer. Can you imagine if Michael Jordan or LeBron had taken the soccer path at five years old? Between their size, leaving ability and reflexes they would have been the best goalies of their era. I know this upsets most of you because many people play soccer because they can’t play football for me size and or athletic standpoint. I get it. But the reality is that our best athletes are not choosing a soccer path. And for the guy who stated at soccer requires more quick decision making you my friend have no freaking clue if never played football or basketball. Clearly your understanding of both games is limited to a myopic view of a chalkboard with a play drawn out on it.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:30 am to
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You can’t tell me that any NFL running back from the last 30 years would not be a better striker than Landon Donovan

Donovan wasn't a striker.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:32 am to
You're clearly out of your depth.
Posted by LAcajun2
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2017
178 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:36 am to
Where did this man come from?
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:36 am to
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Where did this man come from?

My guess is the MSB.
Posted by GeismarGeauxer
Geismar
Member since Dec 2009
5173 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:45 am to
I don’t think the best male or female athletes in US play soccer.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
28429 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:47 am to
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You can’t tell me that any NFL running back from the last 30 years would not be a better striker than Landon Donovan if he had the sa I assure you if he was put on a soccer track at five years old and dedicated himself to it like he did to football he could easily be on the back line of the US men’s national team.



Keep going

Also what is a soccer track
Posted by itawambadog
America, F Yeah!
Member since Nov 2007
21266 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:51 am to
I'm guessing he's talking about an academy.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:51 am to
If Lebron played soccer all his life he wouldn’t be the Lebron he is today

He’d be built like Peter Crouch and terrible at the sport because our coaching is dog shite

Too many people are thinking
“Hey this guy is a great athlete, let’s just give him soccer skill!”

Our best bet would to be the Monstars and take all the talent from the French team and put it in those guys
This post was edited on 7/9/19 at 8:53 am
Posted by Buckeye Backer
Columbus, Ohio
Member since Aug 2009
9240 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:52 am to
I agree with the OP 100%!!! If our best athletes were playing soccer from the time they were 5, we would be dominating the world. The simple and painful truth is that they aren't. Until professional soccer in America pays as much as the NBA, NFL, MLB or NHL....we will continue to get the best of the rest. Imagine a team, fully developed from the time they were 5 of:

Lebron James
Kawhi Leonard
SaQuon Barkley
Odell Beckham
Michael Thomas
Anthony Davis (Goalie)
Julio Jones
AJ Green
Kylar Murray
Antonio Brown
Leonard Fournette
Deandre Hopkins

and on and on and on.....

You CANT tell me that if those guys were playing soccer all their lives, that we wouldn't be winning. When the day comes that we have a team full of that kind of god given size, speed and athleticism, coupled with development from the time of 5 years old....that's when we will win a World Cup. That day is a LONG way away!!
This post was edited on 7/9/19 at 8:53 am
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:54 am to
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You CANT tell me that if those guys were playing soccer all their lives, that we wouldn't be winning

bullshite.
Posted by Buckeye Backer
Columbus, Ohio
Member since Aug 2009
9240 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:57 am to
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bullshite


Prove me wrong...listen, i want the USA to win, but we simply DONT have the best athletes playing and you know it!! Stop kidding yourself..i mean has the world ever seen a player like Lebron James size and speed? Has the world ever seen a Goalie with the size and athleticism as Anthony Davis....ill wait!
Could you fricking imagine Anthony Davis playing Goalie?!?!?!?

This post was edited on 7/9/19 at 9:00 am
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:59 am to
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Prove me wrong

Easily. It doesn't matter if they started playing soccer at 5 if they get shite coaching.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:01 am to
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Has the world ever seen a Goalie with the size and athleticism as Anthony Davis

How quickly can Anthony Davis get to the ground?
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:02 am to
quote:

Lebron James size

Pretty simple really, if Lebron James started playing soccer at the age of 5 he would not be 6-8 250 lbs

quote:

speed

There are a lot of players that are faster than Lebron
Posted by LAcajun2
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2017
178 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:03 am to
So playing soccer changes your height?
Posted by Buckeye Backer
Columbus, Ohio
Member since Aug 2009
9240 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:03 am to
quote:

Pretty simple really, if Lebron James started playing soccer at the age of 5 he would not be 6-8 250 lbs


Prove it!
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