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re: The Glazers really don’t care, update . Joel kinda responds to the fans

Posted on 5/4/21 at 6:14 pm to
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 6:14 pm to
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No idea. 


Well put it together. Let's use their past behavior as an indication.

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But that is probably the last place I would expect to get one.


Why do you think they expected one? I mean, getting statements and photos from well-known people while they doing other things is so common that there is a term reserved for the journalists who do it. The journalists were getting a story regardless of this particular Glazers's reaction.
This post was edited on 5/4/21 at 6:16 pm
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 6:17 pm to
Pville is wrong about everything he post

It really is amazing
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 6:29 pm to
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Why do you think they expected one?

They probably didn't. Just sounds like this is a pretty pointless piece of news, unless the purpose was to laugh at Sky for wasting the money do this.

"Man notorious for not giving statements declines to give statement while holding tub of ice cream in Florida in May."
This post was edited on 5/4/21 at 6:31 pm
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 6:30 pm to
LMAOO you think they wasted money?

They got what they wanted, and created plenty of traffic because of the non statement
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 6:33 pm to
If they make money off of it, congrats to them, but this is close to the premise of a potential MadTV/SNL skit.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 7:18 pm to
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They probably didn't. Just sounds like this is a pretty pointless piece of news, unless the purpose was to laugh at Sky for wasting the money do this.


What the frick are you talking about? The purpose was clear, to catch one of the owners of the club outside of their usual confines in order to either obtain a statement, or reinforce an existing narrative. Guess which one Avram chose? Sky almost certainly made money doing this. The title of the piece alone probably made them a quite a bit of money.

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"Man notorious for not giving statements declines to give statement while holding tub of ice cream in Florida in May."





That may be your reading, but Sky turned it into something that would drive clicks, by simply adding the word 'refuse' to the title. It is like you are being willfully ignorant on how journalism works, for some reason. You aren't their target audience, and for them, this was an extremely low effort story that also doesn't make them look bad at all, as their interests are aligned with the general feeling among fans in England.
Posted by crazy4lsu
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 7:18 pm to
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If they make money off of it, congrats to them, but this is close to the premise of a potential MadTV/SNL skit.





Lol, this has to be a bit.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 7:19 pm to
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They got what they wanted, and created plenty of traffic because of the non statement





Exactly. Of course it is clickbait, but they understand their market.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 8:00 pm to
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Even their apology for the ESL wasn’t even written by them. It’s in British English

Damn for real?
Holy shite that’s bad
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
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Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 8:02 pm to
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Lol, this has to be a bit.


The SCH vs Pville rivalry is another good one
ET: sorry i mean derby.

SCH vs Pville derby.

The bits on this board are fricking amazing
This post was edited on 5/4/21 at 8:03 pm
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125418 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 9:34 pm to
If you watch the video dude just ignores every question for a good 30 seconds and keeps walking

It’s actually a horrible look for him and the family
This post was edited on 5/4/21 at 9:37 pm
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 9:42 pm to
Does it kill you that City’s owner only joined out of fear of missing out in case the super league succeeded and then also led the crash of the entire idea?

City also are bound for a UCL final while United cant sniff a trophy.

I remember SCH criticizing Mansour as an owner who saw the club as a play thing. The management style along with the success points in the complete opposite direction.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125418 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 9:49 pm to
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Does it kill you that City’s owner only joined out of fear of missing out in case the super league succeeded and then also led the crash of the entire idea?


LMAOO believe that all you want, they were full on the ESL
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City also are bound for a UCL final while United cant sniff a trophy.


Only took over a billion pounds spent on players
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I remember SCH criticizing Mansour as an owner who saw the club as a play thing.


It literally is, it’s used as a vessel to promote Abu Dhabi as a first world tier one country. They do this on multiple fronts. It’s a state sponsored club that has already been caught doing loads of shady shite.
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The management style along with the success points in the complete opposite direction


They hired the best people money can buy, bc money is no object. Even then it took 10+ years to get it right and the best manager of this generation to finally make a final

It took Billions to get City to a champions league final

And at the end of the day they will always be the little brother

Sunday got more attention than City making the final
This post was edited on 5/4/21 at 9:55 pm
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 9:49 pm to
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I remember SCH criticizing Mansour as an owner who saw the club as a play thing. The management style along with the success points in the complete opposite direction.

LMAO

It’s always better to have frick you foreign money from Arabs and Russians that’s for sure
Or as Inter as seeing with the Chinese

The Americans just run their teams like a hedge fund
Damn, is United the next Archegos?
This post was edited on 5/4/21 at 9:51 pm
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 9:57 pm to
Posted by cwil177
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 10:00 pm to
From Wiki

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In May 2005, Malcolm Glazer purchased the 28.7 per cent stake held by McManus and Magnier, thus acquiring a controlling interest through his investment vehicle Red Football Ltd in a highly leveraged takeover valuing the club at approximately £800 million (then approx. $1.5 billion).[172] Once the purchase was complete, the club was taken off the stock exchange.[173] Much of the takeover money was borrowed by the Glazers; the debts were transferred to the club. As a result, the club went from being debt-free to being saddled with debts of £540 million, at interest rates of between 7% to 20%.[15][174][175]

In July 2006, the club announced a £660 million debt refinancing package, resulting in a 30 per cent reduction in annual interest payments to £62 million a year.[176][177] In January 2010, with debts of £716.5 million ($1.17 billion),[178] Manchester United further refinanced through a bond issue worth £504 million, enabling them to pay off most of the £509 million owed to international banks.[179] The annual interest payable on the bonds – which were to mature on 1 February 2017 – is approximately £45 million per annum.[180] Despite restructuring, the club's debt prompted protests from fans on 23 January 2010, at Old Trafford and the club's Trafford Training Centre.[181][182] Supporter groups encouraged match-going fans to wear green and gold, the colours of Newton Heath. On 30 January, reports emerged that the Manchester United Supporters' Trust had held meetings with a group of wealthy fans, dubbed the "Red Knights", with plans to buying out the Glazers' controlling interest.[183] The club's debts reached a high of £777 million in June 2007.[184]

In August 2011, the Glazers were believed to have approached Credit Suisse in preparation for a $1 billion (approx. £600 million) initial public offering (IPO) on the Singapore stock exchange that would value the club at more than £2 billion;[185] however, in July 2012, the club announced plans to list its IPO on the New York Stock Exchange instead.[186] Shares were originally set to go on sale for between $16 and $20 each, but the price was cut to $14 by the launch of the IPO on 10 August, following negative comments from Wall Street analysts and Facebook's disappointing stock market debut in May. Even after the cut, Manchester United was valued at $2.3 billion, making it the most valuable football club in the world.[187]

The New York Stock Exchange allows for different shareholders to enjoy different voting rights over the club. Shares offered to the public ("Class A") had 10 times lesser voting rights than shares retained by the Glazers ("Class B").[188] Initially in 2012, only 10% of shares were offered to the public.[189] As of 2019, the Glazers retain ultimate control over the club, with over 70% of shares, and even higher voting power.[190]

In 2012, The Guardian estimated that the club had paid a total of over £500 million in debt interest and other fees on behalf of the Glazers,[191] and in 2019, reported that the total sum paid by the club for such fees had risen to £1 billion.[175] At the end of 2019, the club had a net debt of nearly £400 million.


Damn the glazers really did frick y’all over.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125418 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 10:08 pm to
I think people would get over the serviceable debt, if the Glazers actually made a payment on it

But it’s the club paying off the debt for something the club never did to take on the debt

Or if they decided to invest money into the stadium or facilities that are falling apart

But they can’t even do that, they have done less than the bare minimum as owners of a club.

Also articles coming out that they are wanting to push the commercial side of the house even more to turn the club into a 7.5 billion pound business
Posted by SirWinston
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Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 11:53 pm to
I get your frustration, mate... but do try and soften the anti-Semitism, as it’s not your best look.
This post was edited on 5/4/21 at 11:53 pm
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 11:54 pm to
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I get your frustration, mate... but do try and soften the anti-Semitism, as it’s not your best look.



Lol
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81851 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 11:55 pm to
NFL is way more parity-laden than Premier League and the Glazers have made small-market Tampa only one of three franchises to win two Super Bowls in the last 20 years.


This post was edited on 5/4/21 at 11:58 pm
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