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Posted on 4/19/21 at 4:55 pm to BleedPurpleGold
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Holy frick Marcelo preach brother.
Lol, he may be right, but its a rich dude speaking about the rich. its a dude that is at a club that is richer than other clubs even after completely falling on their face.
Posted on 4/19/21 at 4:56 pm to BleedPurpleGold
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Because it makes the league pointless the second you fall behind in the title race. And the rich are just getting richer, further destabilizing the pyramid.
LA liga is pointless for 17 fricking teams. The premier league is pointless for 16 of them. Im an Arsenal fan, we arent winning the league anytime soon. And i be willing to bet City wins it again next year.
This post was edited on 4/19/21 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 4/19/21 at 4:57 pm to dgnx6
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The premier league is already like that minus leceister.
You understand why this is occurring, despite the massive wealth in the league? The sheer fact it isn't a 1 to 1 arrangement with regards to wealth and winning is an argument against the idea this league will provide more entertainment. You people aren't see the most likely scenario, that these clubs will rest on their laurels and produce dogshit for a long time. That is literally what happened in other leagues which follow the franchise model.
Posted on 4/19/21 at 4:59 pm to dgnx6
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LA liga is pointless for 17 fricking teams.
I'm begging you to understand the circumstances that made them pointless. It was a mini arrangement that models this larger one directly. You want to support that arrangement again, in larger form, because why?
Posted on 4/19/21 at 5:02 pm to crazy4lsu
Well Jp morgan is willing to bet the farm it will, and that this is what new and future fans want.
This wasnt thrown together on a friday night.
I just find it hard to believe manu or chelsea just throwing games in the league because they are in 3rd.
This wasnt thrown together on a friday night.
I just find it hard to believe manu or chelsea just throwing games in the league because they are in 3rd.
Posted on 4/19/21 at 5:03 pm to dgnx6
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Lol, he may be right, but its a rich dude speaking about the rich. its a dude that is at a club that is richer than other clubs even after completely falling on their face.
I don’t really care about how rich he is. He’s right. That’s all that matters.
Posted on 4/19/21 at 5:04 pm to crazy4lsu
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I'm begging you to understand the circumstances that made them pointless. It was a mini arrangement that models this larger one directly. You want to support that arrangement again, in larger form, because why?
Because my own selfish reasons that Arsenal sucks, and if not now, we will be left out the next go around. They have ben pushing this for 20 years. It was going to happen with or without Arsenal.
Posted on 4/19/21 at 5:05 pm to dgnx6
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Well Jp morgan is willing to bet the farm it will, and that this is what new and future fans want.
No, this is what retarded financiers who don't understand fandom think people want. The very fact that you and I are talking about this undermines that notion. You understand that right?
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just find it hard to believe manu or chelsea just throwing games in the league because they are in 3rd.
Who said throwing? But are you willing to take risks for financial rewards that are already so generous?
Posted on 4/19/21 at 5:05 pm to dgnx6
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what new and future fans want.
A closed system of the same teams year in and year out based on current popularity?
Posted on 4/19/21 at 5:06 pm to dgnx6
Or you can have foresight and see why this is a deadend, a race to the bottom, and why everyone should fight against it. The payment arrangements in football is less than 20 years old. Why are we in a rush to codify a thing as though it couldn't possibly exist in another way?
Posted on 4/19/21 at 5:06 pm to BleedPurpleGold
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I don’t really care about how rich he is. He’s right. That’s all that matters.
He wuold absolutely be the rich getting richer if it was offered. Thats all im saying. leeds sure as hell took the premier league money.
it like being lecture by Jon Kerry on climate change while he flies a private jet.
This post was edited on 4/19/21 at 5:07 pm
Posted on 4/19/21 at 5:07 pm to dgnx6
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Well Jp morgan is willing to bet the farm it will, and that this is what new and future fans want.
A large percent of fans will enjoy this, in the short term it's a brilliant financial move. The amount of superstars playing each other week in and week out will be insane. In places like South America that will tune in to watch Messi(and the next Messi), the Super League will be must see tv. And in the short term that is a great financial move that only reinforces itself, as only those teams will be able to afford the best of the best. In the even 5-10 year span that will only intensify more. Long term, this is an absolutely horrible decision and JP Morgan doesn't get that.
Posted on 4/19/21 at 5:07 pm to lsugorilla
Yeah, the initial polls have shown the ESL is extremely unpopular. Even amongst those in favor of it, only 31% said they’d even watch it.
Posted on 4/19/21 at 5:09 pm to dgnx6
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He wuold absolutely be the rich getting richer if it was offered
I don’t think that’s true. He’d say exactly what Klopp has said - he’s not in favor of it and would choose the old European model if it were up to him.
Posted on 4/19/21 at 5:09 pm to TeLeFaWx
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Long term, this is an absolutely horrible decision and JP Morgan doesn't get that.
Long term the goal is most likely one big european league.
Not just a side competition.
Posted on 4/19/21 at 5:10 pm to BleedPurpleGold
Can someone explain this whole response of ‘football is for the fans’?
This makes no sense as an argument against the SL.
This makes no sense as an argument against the SL.
Posted on 4/19/21 at 5:10 pm to BleedPurpleGold
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I don’t think that’s true. He’d say exactly what Klopp has said - he’s not in favor of it and would choose the old European model if it were up to him.
The old European model was only the champions of the leagues went to tournaments. So you would be shrinking it even more.
And again would make the league meaningless for most teams by Jan.
And if you are worried about the league becoming boring, do what they did in the championship, playoff.
This post was edited on 4/19/21 at 5:17 pm
Posted on 4/19/21 at 5:14 pm to dgnx6
Haha, come on man. You know what I meant. Marcelo would have said the exact same thing Klopp did - that he prefers how it was 3 days ago, as opposed to how it is now.
Posted on 4/19/21 at 5:14 pm to dgnx6
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Lol, he may be right, but its a rich dude speaking about the rich. its a dude that is at a club that is richer than other clubs even after completely falling on their face.
The economics of your particular situation shouldn't blind you to reality. Football was never for profit. The purpose of the sport is to play. Why we should upend a robust structure of teams and competitions because some billionaires decided to spend 55 mil on Fred is beyond me. This relationship between football and money is new and temporary. Instead of creating something lasting, where players are trained appropriately, given options if they fail, given mental support for the extreme issues associated with both wealth and failure, support coaching efforts, support measures to involve clubs in the communities where they are based, we just have to spend more money on a Brazilian winger so Kroneke doesn't have to spend his own wealth.
You might not care about development, but I do. And when this insane league flops because the product is shite, or because the EU grinds it to a halt, or any of the other issues which will stop this, maybe then you'll listen to what me and others have been saying. I've been making arguments about youth development for a decade now. Just because UEFA is bad isn't an argument for making something that is clearly worse. We can absolutely fix the funding issues in the sport, but not if these insane clubs think the temporary popularity is enough to codify a sporting arrangement which will make everything worse.
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