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Soccer nations with big quality differences between domestic league and national team

Posted on 4/10/24 at 8:48 am
Posted by West Palm Tiger561
Palm Beach County
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Posted on 4/10/24 at 8:48 am
Which country has the biggest difference in terms of skill between their domestic league and national team. Uraguay is the first team to mind. Domestic league is probably below average but at times can produce an elite national team. Argentina seems to be the only elite team with an above average league.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
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Posted on 4/10/24 at 8:51 am to
Wales has been in a few international tournaments recently yet you rarely if ever hear about the welsh league. (Total Network Solutions TYFYS) Same with Ireland. If you follow Copa Libertadores you’ll become familiar with more of the South American leagues.
Posted by West Palm Tiger561
Palm Beach County
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Posted on 4/10/24 at 8:52 am to
Wales is a good mention. I forgot about Colombia as well. Elite teams with a shite league.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
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Posted on 4/10/24 at 8:57 am to
Yea there are some good teams from each league, even smaller nations like Peru and Bolivia.

From Colombia you have Once Caldas, Deportivo Cali, Independiente Medellin, America de Cali

Chile’s Universidad Catolica and Colo Colo once had an American goalkeeper in the 2000s. Jonny Walker.
Posted by metallica81788
NO
Member since Sep 2008
8852 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 9:01 am to
Canada
Posted by PhillyTiger90
Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 4/10/24 at 9:02 am to
Croatia
Wales
South Korea
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
48507 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 9:29 am to
England

Yes they’re pretty good but the Premier League should be making them juggernauts. Instead it’s been France, Germany, and Spain that have dominated international competitions
This post was edited on 4/10/24 at 9:31 am
Posted by rtiger
NWLA
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 4/10/24 at 9:37 am to
France is who I think of. You have PSG and then nothing else in the League One, but they are always a favorite in any competition they play in.


Welsh domestic teams are part of EFL /EPL right? Cardiff plays in the EPL when they can get it together so not sure Wales has a true domestic league that is driving their national team.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
71582 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 10:26 am to
quote:

Welsh domestic teams are part of EFL /EPL right? Cardiff plays in the EPL when they can get it together so not sure Wales has a true domestic league that is driving their national team.


Wales has a domestic league. But to give you an indication of where it would fall if it were in the English system, Wrexham has been loaning out young players who can't get on the field with them to teams in the 1st and 2nd tier in Wales. This has been while Wrexham has been in the 4th and 5th tier in the English system.

There are 4 or 5 Welsh teams playing in the English system. There is one English team in the Welsh system (S' TNS New Saints).
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 4/10/24 at 10:28 am to
quote:

Welsh domestic teams are part of EFL /EPL right? Cardiff plays in the EPL when they can get it together so not sure Wales has a true domestic league that is driving their national team


Wales has Swansea, Cardiff, Wrexham, and Newport County in the EFL. They also have a Welsh football league that the other domestic teams play in that is pretty poor
Posted by DFWAggie09
DFW
Member since Oct 2011
1486 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 9:31 pm to
Putting in my vote for Japan and the J-League. Seems like Japan always has a decent showing in international tournaments. Nagoya Grampus and Wenger TYFYS.
Posted by lsugorilla
PNW
Member since Sep 2009
5678 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 10:33 pm to
Nigeria. Cameroon Ivory Coast. Ghana. Morocco.

This is a fun topic. Another good topic would be talent producing nations and discrepancies in national team.
Not sure if someone should start a separate thread
George Weah
Mo Salah
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125721 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:40 am to
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France is who I think of. You have PSG and then nothing else in the League One, but they are always a favorite in any competition they play in.


Imagine thinking a top 5 league isn’t quality
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
27886 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 2:40 pm to
So is MLS in the Top 13 leagues in the world? FIFA has the USMNT ranked 13th.
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