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Pettifogger
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re: Should we celebrate a 13 goal victory?
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Why do these things have to correlate? They don’t become less of role models by celebrating each goal. Y’all sound like a bunch of people that think everyone deserve trophies. Thailand beat Indonesia 13-0 in a women’s friendly a year or two ago.



They don't correlate. They arguably conflict. That's the point.

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I thought the celebrating was maybe a little much and felt a little bad for Thailand, but at the same time I’m not going to be upset with someone scoring in the World Cup. I’m sure that’s an incredible feeling.



This is pretty much what I said, I didn't bitch about the celebrations other than to point out that it doesn't line up particularly well with all the off-the-field campaigns the USWNT inserts into the news cycle.

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As far as the swimsuit thing goes, I have a hard time faulting someone for wanting to make an extra hundred grand or however much they make from doing that. It also doesn’t make someone less of a role model for posing in SI.



This doesn't make sense and doesn't follow from my comment. The point is that Alex Morgan poses for SI and makes money from it and then bemoans being treated or looked at differently on the basis that she's a woman. I'm quite happy she posed for SI and I certainly don't fault her for using her looks to make money. I do fault her for turning around and acting like she's somehow oppressed and financially burdened as a female, when she's clearly benefitting from being a good looking female in a manner not available to most of her male counterparts.

TLDR - Men and women are different. Both the USMNT and USWNT benefit in many ways on account of this distinction. It's stupid to whine about the difference when your livelihood in many ways depends on it.


Dawgsontop34
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re: Should we celebrate a 13 goal victory?
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Men and women are different. Both the USMNT and USWNT benefit in many ways on account of this distinction. It's stupid to whine about the difference when your livelihood in many ways depends on it.



Sorry for misunderstanding your point. I somewhat understand the point from the Women, but I’m also certain they’re going to use their ratings vs. the World Cup in comparison to the Gold Cup ratings as to why they should earn more money, and it’s going to be funny.



I Bleed Garnet
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but I’m also certain they’re going to use their ratings vs. the World Cup in comparison to the Gold Cup ratings as to why they should earn more money, and it’s going to be funny.


I don’t think they will TBH


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Pettifogger
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re: Should we celebrate a 13 goal victory?
No prob, not trying to be hostile.

In the end, I don't think the USWNT and their advocates (on a cultural level not fans) are going to be happy by getting marginally more money. It's a bigger crusade that is going to get even less rational when they have to move on to bigger issues (tv deals, etc.). I honestly won't be at all miffed if they do get what they currently want, other than I hate seeing people have success on bad/dishonest arguments. But it's not my money so who cares.

But it's used as fuel for this idea that this is some good vs evil struggle, and that is obnoxious and unfortunately, keeps me from enjoying the spectacle (some of that is my fault, but I can't help it).


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chalmetteowl
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re: Should we celebrate a 13 goal victory?
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Primarily that they're superior to the men, a claim that will be made over and over
the men haven't scored 13 goals in the last 4 world cups


chalmetteowl
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re: Should we celebrate a 13 goal victory?
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If soccer doesn't want this, create a 10 goal rule!


the LHSAA has an 8 goal rule after the first half of play

not that many boys games have it come into play, but Dominican and Mount Carmel put 8 on CHS and all of their district opponents except for each other
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Pettifogger
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re: Should we celebrate a 13 goal victory?
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the men haven't scored 13 goals in the last 4 world cups



Because they only participated in 3.

Also, there are fewer competitive teams in women's soccer, as shown by yesterday's result.

Dishonest positions like yours are why people feel compelled to point out that the USWNT would get waxed by a good HS boys team.


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lionward2014
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re: Should we celebrate a 13 goal victory?
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the men haven't scored 13 goals in the last 4 world cups


Pushing this fake news after it was debunked in the other thread that it was mentioned.


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I Bleed Garnet
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re: Should we celebrate a 13 goal victory?
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Pushing this fake news after it was debunked in the other thread that it was mentioned.


It’s technically true
The last four WCs have been
18,14,10,08


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re: Should we celebrate a 13 goal victory?
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It’s technically true


Of course it is, but it's not relevant. The comparison makes no sense.


I Bleed Garnet
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Of course it is, but it's not relevant. The comparison makes no sense.


Oh of course the comparison makes no sense

I was just talking to the other poster who said it’s fake news because the amount is greater since we didn’t qualify for 2018


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pvilleguru
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re: Should we celebrate a 13 goal victory?
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Should we celebrate a 13 goal victory?

You should celebrate any victory in a world cup, regardless of scoreline.


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JETigER
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re: Should we celebrate a 13 goal victory?
united states should request that Norway's best player be reinstated immediately to norways national team if they play in the knockout stage.

That would equalize for the celebrating 13 goal victory.


pvilleguru
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the LHSAA has an 8 goal rule after the first half of play

AHSAA's rule is 10 after the completion of one half.


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pvilleguru
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united states should request that Norway's best player be reinstated immediately to norways national team if they play in the knockout stage.

She's not suspended.


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jackwoods4
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re: Should we celebrate a 13 goal victory?
Yeah, we should. I feel like it's more disrespectful to stop playing. Like if I was an Ole Miss fan, I'd have much rather LSU score another TD than take a knee inside my 5 with 5 minutes left. That's more humiliating.


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