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re: Serious Q About Soccer Injuries

Posted on 6/19/14 at 7:43 pm to
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 7:43 pm to
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Maybe they're all faking but that seems ridiculous.


80% of the time they are faking and it seems ridiculous because it is.

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What's the deal?


They are allowed to get away with it.
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 7:44 pm to
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People who played (like me) understand that.


Funny I've played for probably 12 years and never once laid on the ground for any amount of time after getting fouled.
Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 7:50 pm to
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One thing that always puzzled me is why the guys are wearing thinner and thinner shoes. The current Nikes look essentially like socks. I realize they want lightweight footwear, but it's not as if the older models are Chuck Taylors, and with the spikes hitting your foot, you'd think the players would want more protection.


Speed and ball touch.

These were my all time favorite cleats when I played:


Had a pair in blue/white and, yes, the green grass Think they weighed like 6 or 7 oz.

Heading the ball doesn't hurt if you hit it right...may sting a bit but that is all. As mentioned, getting run over or tripped up at a half or full sprint hurts...either scrapes from the ground or falling awkwardly. Can lead to serious injury.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 7:52 pm to
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Funny I've played for probably 12 years and never once laid on the ground for any amount of time after getting fouled.
I have, but only when I was really hurt.
Posted by glassman
Next to the beer taps at Finn's
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 8:06 pm to
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never once laid on the ground for any amount of time after getting fouled.




Then you were never really hurt. My worst injury happened in practice as a sophomore in high school. Broken nose, broken cheek bone, broken orbital socket, lost my front right tooth, 14 stitches on my eye brow and a concussion. Practicing corner kicks and took the keepers knee flush to my face.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 8:09 pm to
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These were my all time favorite cleats when I played:



I always played with the old school Bauers.

Loved em.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 8:12 pm to
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I always played with the old school Bauers.
Bauer? Hockey skates with the blade taken off?

I thought Mitre was US old school...........
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 8:15 pm to
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My worst injury happened in practice as a sophomore in high school. Broken nose, broken cheek bone, broken orbital socket, lost my front right tooth, 14 stitches on my eye brow and a concussion. Practicing corner kicks and took the keepers knee flush to my face.
I never had anything like that happen or had to have surgery for an injury, but I tweaked my knee twice to where I couldn't run for about 2 weeks. Tried to clear a ball and the opponent ran through my leg. I also got tripped and fell on my shoulder once and I couldn't lift my arm over my head for about a week. Couldn't do a throw in for two weeks. Every time my arm would get in that position, it would go dead and fall back down. Those 3 times I stayed down for at least 3 minutes.
Posted by RandySavage
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 8:17 pm to
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Then you were never really hurt.


Yes I have been very fortunate in that regard.

My point is that how often when these guys go down like they do and lay there are they "really hurt"? The answer is almost never.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
36640 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 8:18 pm to
Beckanbaur. Franz Beckenbaur.

Beckenbaur 3s were awesome.
Posted by glassman
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 8:20 pm to
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My point is that how often when these guys go down like they do and lay there are they "really hurt"? The answer is almost never.



One of your favorite players is a master at that technique. But, yes it is part of the game for many cultures. It is a way to stop momentum or pick up a chance for a set piece towards goal. No different than leaning into a pitch to get a walk or fake a charge in basketball. The Italians and South Americans have made it an art form.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 8:21 pm to
It´s Beckenbauer. I wasn´t trying to correct you, I seriously thought you meant Bauer.
Posted by RandySavage
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 8:27 pm to
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But, yes it is part of the game for many cultures.


Going down softly with contact is not something I like but I can tolerate.

Outright flopping I really dislike.

Rolling around holding as many body parts as possible waving your hand in the air and appearing as if in extreme anguish after an innocuous tackle that you will be fully recovered and running around as if nothing ever happened as soon as the game is re-started. Well those players deserve a special place in hell.
This post was edited on 6/19/14 at 8:41 pm
Posted by glassman
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 8:32 pm to
If you are taken off the field in a stretcher you should be off for atleast 5 minutes or subbed. None of this Dani Alves BS where he is taken off and comes back on in 30 seconds and runs like a deer down the right flank.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
36640 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 8:35 pm to
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s Beckenbauer. I wasn´t trying to correct you, I seriously thought you meant Bauer



Not a big deal. But those were awesome cleats
Posted by KG5989
Das Boot
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 8:39 pm to
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I'd also think it's important to note that the match balls these guys play with are far different in material density, stiffness and surface than what you see at Academy. You couldn't pay me to head an $11.99 Target ball, especially in the cold. I'd rather smash my head against a door casing.


This

I started to get into soccer in my late high school years and early college years. Never played in a league or whatever, but a few of my friends played on the high school team and some in college.

Well, we would go and play pick up games at a park with a bunch of people. And the guys that played in high school or college would bring their nice soccer balls and shite, and the guys that didnt play, like me, had no idea that there was a difference in the type of ball and all that.

Well, this 1 time the guy that usually brought out the soccer balls couldnt make it for some reason. So we went to Academy and bought a handful of their $15 soccer balls and used them during out pickup games the next day. Well, yea it was completely different and hurt like a bitch. Nobody said shite early on because they didnt wanna seem like a bitch or whatever. And none of us knew that there was a big difference. Until I sent in a cross to 1 of my friends that played in high school.... and he just flat out bailed on it. I said "wtf why didnt you go for that?" His response "these balls suck and feel like youre heading a brick compared to the 'real' soccer balls."

So I finally caught on and would only head the ball if it was a soft pass or whatever And shortly after that, someone tried to head in a ball that was coming in hot, hit him square in the face and broke his nose. Needless to say, we never played without a good ball ever again

A good soccer ball will cost you upwards of $125+, depending on which 1 you get. The cheap shitty ones will be like $15. And you can tell a difference.... especially when you try and head that ball :lol:
Posted by Bho
Lexington
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 8:40 pm to
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Funny I've played for probably 12 years and never once laid on the ground for any amount of time after getting fouled.



I may have an explanation for this. I could be way off base here, but let's all use open minds. Think about the level these guys are playing and what everyone that "has played for 12 years" are playing. For instance, I coach youth baseball. When one of my kids fouls a ball off his ankle, he may take 10 seconds to shake it off and go on. In the Majors, you see guys hobble for a minute, get checked out and move on. In HS football, a kid gets drilled, picks his arse up and gets back in the huddle. In the NFL, they lay there, get checked out and go to the sideline. So in essence, this is an issue in all sports at a professional level. In soccer, you rarely see kids just laying around when they get clipped for fear of losing their spot. Not so much in professional ranks.
Posted by TheWalrus
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:15 pm to
The exaggeration of injuries is going to get someone seriously hurt someday, like a boy that cried wolf situation. Eventually, teams and the ref are just going to play on if it's over the top and if the guy is really hurt and gets stepped on or something, that could be dangerous.

Like today, Ian Darke implied Uruguay was wasting time with injuries when the player actually almost got knocked out cold.

Teams need to stop playing the ball out when it's obviously a stunt like Colombia/Ivory Coast today. The jackass Colombians booted the ball out for a throw in in the Ivory Coast's own half when Ivory Coast had possession with even numbers close to the edge of the box before the crowd started pressuring them to play it out.
Posted by Sheep
Neither here nor there
Member since Jun 2007
19699 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 8:16 am to
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Somebody needs to make a YouTube video with this, and then people will stop freaking out every time a player falls down grimacing. That shite hurts. People who played (like me) understand that.




That sounds good. I call dibs on either "camera" or "shoe."

RandySavage has never been hurt in a soccer game before. Maybe he could be our sprinter.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
46427 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 8:33 am to
I took a cleat to the funny bone once on a slide tackle. That intense pain/ tingling that last a few minutes lasted 2 weeks and I still have it act up from time to time 20 years later.
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