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re: Preliminary USMNT Gold Cup Roster

Posted on 5/21/19 at 4:17 pm to
Posted by etm512
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Posted on 5/21/19 at 4:17 pm to
I still love this as it applies to Nagbe

Posted by Broski
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Posted on 5/21/19 at 4:20 pm to
That's the kind of analytic data I need in my life.
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 5/21/19 at 4:20 pm to
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Then he's not worth our time.

Sure he is. People just keep expecting him to be something he's not. When you look at what he actually is, he's still an extremely valuable piece to have.

How often have we had a ton of trouble getting out of pressure in our own half/middle third and end up losing the ball or just booting it downfield? That's where Nagbe earns his keep.
This post was edited on 5/21/19 at 4:24 pm
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 5/21/19 at 4:22 pm to
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he's still an extremely valuable piece to have.


As a what?

ETA: Is this going to be like that time that you thought Guzan and Steffen were neck-and-neck for first choice keeper? Don't make McKennie your Steffen.
This post was edited on 5/21/19 at 4:23 pm
Posted by Michael Stein
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Posted on 5/21/19 at 4:28 pm to
If we’re choosing MLS midfielders for the 23-man squad based on their current form, Cristian Roldan is more deserving than Nagbe or Lletget, IMO.

Roldan has scored two great goals in his last two games. He’s remained solid defensively while contributing much more to Seattle’s attack this season. I see him being like the Bedoya of this WC cycle and consistently making the squad on the bench and putting in good work when called upon.

Nagbe is who he is. Very technical and talented, takes care of the ball. But doesn’t contribute nearly enough to the attack for his talent, and sometimes not great defensively.

Lletget has the most attacking talent of those three, but he’s currently not in good form. I’ll be kind of surprised if he makes the final squad, unless he really impresses in camp.

I think this is a good team overall, just a bit concerned with our depth at forward and outside back. Jozy has to stay healthy.
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 5/21/19 at 4:31 pm to
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Nagbe is who he is


Second time this has been said in this thread.

Can this be his new name on this board?
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 5/21/19 at 4:36 pm to
That does sum it up pretty well. Don't put him on the wing or as a 10. He's not comfortable there. He's that guy that shuttles the ball from the defense to the attacking players, and it's something that we have sorely lacked in the recent years.
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 5/21/19 at 4:39 pm to
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That does sum it up pretty well. Don't put him on the wing or as a 10. He's not comfortable there. He's that guy that shuttles the ball from the defense to the attacking players, and it's something that we have sorely lacked in the recent years.



The problem is that both McKennie and Adams are infinitely better than him in filling that role.
Posted by Michael Stein
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 5/21/19 at 4:43 pm to
Yep, and that’s why I would hesistate picking Nagbe over Roldan if it comes to that. Nagbe is very good at the one role he can do, but not better than McKennie or Adams.

Roldan isn’t amazing, but he’s in great form and he can play anywhere in the midfield. Much more versatile player than Nagbe. Perfect guy to bring off the bench as a midfield sub, like Bedoya was.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 5/21/19 at 4:43 pm to
Adams is much more of a DM, and I don't think McKennie is consistently as good with the ball.

Adams may be better than him in that position, but we already have him as a starter elsewhere.
This post was edited on 5/21/19 at 4:45 pm
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/21/19 at 4:44 pm to
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Adams is much more of a DM


Sure, but he is still a better 8 than Nagbe.

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I don't think McKennie is consistently as good with the ball.



Posted by WinnPtiger
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 5/21/19 at 5:12 pm to
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and I don't think McKennie is consistently as good with the ball.



than Nagbe? holy MLS batman
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/21/19 at 5:30 pm to
Nagbe has better ball control than McKennie. I agree with that point. Is he a better overall player? No.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 5/21/19 at 7:28 pm to
Gyau over Green and Wooten is really weird imo
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 5/21/19 at 7:31 pm to
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Gyau over Green and Wooten is really weird imo
Wooten definitely should have been called.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 5/22/19 at 11:06 am to
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The U.S. will open its summer schedule with a combined preparation camp with players from the Senior and U-23 Men’s National Teams from May 26-June 2 in Annapolis, Md. The initial group will include senior National Team players who are eligible for the 2019 Concacaf Gold Cup along with a number of U-23 internationals who are getting ready for their own training camp to be held from June 10-16 in Salt Lake City.


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SUMMER TRAINING CAMP ROSTER BY POSITION (Club; MNT Caps/Goals)
May 26-June 2;

GOALKEEPERS (3): JT Marcinkowski (San Jose Earthquakes; 0/0), Andrew Thomas (Stanford; 0/0), Justin Vom Steeg (LA Galaxy; 0/0)

DEFENDERS (8): Kyle Duncan (New York Red Bulls; 0/0), Cameron Carter-Vickers (Tottenham Hotspur/ENG; 7/0), Marlon Fossey (Fulham/ENG; 0/0), Omar Gonzalez (Atlas/MEX; 49/3), Andrew Gutman (Charlotte independence; 0/0), Matt Miazga (Chelsea/ENG; 12/1), Tim Ream (Fulham; 28/1), Antonee Robinson (Everton/ENG; 6/0)

MIDFIELDERS (4): Duane Holmes (Derby County/ENG; 0/0), Emerson Hyndman (Bournemouth/ENG; 2/0), Keaton Parks (New York City FC; 1/0), Eryk Williamson (Portland Timbers; 0/0)

FORWARDS (6): Jonathan Amon(Nordsjælland/DEN; 1/0), Luca de la Torre (Fulham/ENG; 1/0), Joe Gyau (Duisburg/GER; 2/0), Josh Perez (LAFC; 0/0), Josh Sargent (Werder Bremen/GER; 6/2); Haji Wright (Schalke/GER; 0/0)


Posted by Gus Fring
Alabama
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Posted on 5/22/19 at 3:10 pm to
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Posted by pvilleguru
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60453 posts
Posted on 5/23/19 at 10:01 pm to
Just an FYI, US Soccer just released an app.
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
11701 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 5:46 pm to
So the 28 man roster released for the Jamaica friendly is not the final roster for the Gold Cup I am assuming, correct?

Or did I just miss something and Tyler Adams got hurt?
This post was edited on 6/1/19 at 5:52 pm
Posted by GeismarGeauxer
Geismar
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 6/1/19 at 6:01 pm to
Just for Jamaica game.

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