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re: Pre-2008 Manchester City fan check-in thread..
Posted on 5/13/12 at 11:52 am to crazy4lsu
Posted on 5/13/12 at 11:52 am to crazy4lsu
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It's why Germany is so far ahead of England at the international level. It's also why very few German teams are in financial trouble. This also gives teams the ability to buy players, since their youth system provides so much depth.
it really does seem like the english youth system is lacking outside of west ham and the big clubs with good youth systems are scouting and bringing in more players from outside of england at young ages
Posted on 5/13/12 at 11:53 am to theOG
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what is your mailing address?
I can't give out personal information on here all willy-nilly.
Tell you what, just post the date on here, and I'll be satisfied.
Posted on 5/13/12 at 11:54 am to StarSaint
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Pre-2008 Manchester City fan check-in thread.. I started seriously watching soccer in 2009, so flame away if you must. I'm so fricken ecstatic about both teams that I follow, Chelsea and City, that I don't care!!!!!
You seem like a nice person and a good poster on this board so I don't mean to say I don't like you. Being a Chelsea and a Manchester city fan I'm pretty sure technically qualifies you as the worst soccer fan ever though
Posted on 5/13/12 at 11:54 am to StraightCashHomey21
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it really does seem like the english youth system is lacking outside of west ham and the big clubs with good youth systems are scouting and bringing in more players from outside of england at young ages
Crewe Alexandra is another example of a good English youth system, even if they're in League Two.
Posted on 5/13/12 at 11:55 am to WarSlamEagle
As well as Aston Villa, crystal palace, Southampton, man united, arsenal.
Posted on 5/13/12 at 11:57 am to StraightCashHomey21
Germany has really taken advantage of the immigration into their country. A lot of Turks and Eastern Europeans are living in Germany and they are getting them in the youth system early on.
Posted on 5/13/12 at 11:58 am to WarSlamEagle
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You seem like a nice person and a good poster on this board so I don't mean to say I don't like you. Being a Chelsea and a Manchester city fan I'm pretty sure technically qualifies you as the worst soccer fan ever though
Ok, I'll explain my "fandom", I guess.
I actually got into City in 2009, so I guess I'm more of a City fan than anything. Last summer, we finally got FSC so I was able to watch more games, and I also found myself pulling for Chelsea quite a bit as well. I'm pretty new probably compared to most of you other soccer dudes, so maybe I'm still learning the ropes?
Posted on 5/13/12 at 11:58 am to crazy4lsu
Not really relevant to the OP, but this board is ridiculous about bashing Barcelona for their spending. This needs to be said to some of the
Have you seen the current first teamers on Barça who came from La Masia?
Messi
Xavi
Iniesta
Busquets
Puyol
Pique (sold to Man United, but bought back)
Cesc (sold to Arsenal, but bought back)
Pedro
Tello
Adriano
Valdes
They have splurged on a few players, but with their competition at Madrid, it's impossible to not spend big when a David Villa or Alexis is available.
Have you seen the current first teamers on Barça who came from La Masia?
Messi
Xavi
Iniesta
Busquets
Puyol
Pique (sold to Man United, but bought back)
Cesc (sold to Arsenal, but bought back)
Pedro
Tello
Adriano
Valdes
They have splurged on a few players, but with their competition at Madrid, it's impossible to not spend big when a David Villa or Alexis is available.
Posted on 5/13/12 at 11:58 am to hendersonshands
OK you guys, I think I've calmed down from my City title meltdown.
That being said, I am a huge believer in youth systems, but I also think it's fair to say that titles cannot be won by youth systems alone anymore. Southampton has done a good job of developing wing players in recent years (in particular Gareth Bale & Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain) but wasn't able to retain them. You HAVE to spend money, and possibly big money to win titles. And credit goes to City for spending on a team that was able to mesh and win a championship.
Who knows, part of my anger could be that my club spent 36M on Stuart Downing & Jordan Henderson.
That being said, I am a huge believer in youth systems, but I also think it's fair to say that titles cannot be won by youth systems alone anymore. Southampton has done a good job of developing wing players in recent years (in particular Gareth Bale & Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain) but wasn't able to retain them. You HAVE to spend money, and possibly big money to win titles. And credit goes to City for spending on a team that was able to mesh and win a championship.
Who knows, part of my anger could be that my club spent 36M on Stuart Downing & Jordan Henderson.
Posted on 5/13/12 at 11:58 am to WarSlamEagle
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Crewe Alexandra is another example of a good English youth system, even if they're in League Two.
Southampton have an amazing youth system as well. Everton and 'Pool don't do too badly. Man U has a good youth system, but it's really hard for young players to break into the first team.
Posted on 5/13/12 at 11:59 am to WarSlamEagle
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I can't give out personal information on here all willy-nilly.
Tell you what, just post the date on here, and I'll be satisfied.
August of 2005.
Posted on 5/13/12 at 12:01 pm to thenry712
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this board is ridiculous about bashing Barcelona for their spending.
They are also oddly silent on Bayern too, but Bayern's youth system has to be second only to Barca's. Having a good youth system means you are able to spend more than you otherwise would have been able.
This post was edited on 5/13/12 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 5/13/12 at 12:04 pm to crazy4lsu
Bayern isn't afraid to spend on a player they want. Gomez, Robben, Ribery, Neuer but i would say those purchases have worked out.
The Luiz Gustavo signing is starting to look great as well. Most Bayern fans think the club doesn't spend enough but everything is decided by the board and for the most part they get it right.
I'm still pissed about Hummels.
The Luiz Gustavo signing is starting to look great as well. Most Bayern fans think the club doesn't spend enough but everything is decided by the board and for the most part they get it right.
I'm still pissed about Hummels.
Posted on 5/13/12 at 12:07 pm to WarSlamEagle
World Cup 2010. I watched Argentina and loved how Tevez played the game so I decided I would support the club he played for.
Posted on 5/13/12 at 12:10 pm to hendersonshands
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Germany has really taken advantage of the immigration into their country. A lot of Turks and Eastern Europeans are living in Germany and they are getting them in the youth system early on.
That's another good point. Hell, France became a superpower in world soccer because of immigration. England should have an advantage because of their links with the Caribbean, but they have such a shitty national set-up, and it probably won't improve for the next ten years or so.
Posted on 5/13/12 at 12:16 pm to Caplewood
What...I thought it was a decent to good post? CAN I NOT WIN HERE?
Posted on 5/13/12 at 3:29 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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didn't cost United over a billion fricking dollars to win a title
Good point.
Hey how much did it cost United this year to come in 2nd?
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