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re: Path to Success is Exclusive Academies not a Million Fields

Posted on 7/8/26 at 8:34 am to
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
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Posted on 7/8/26 at 8:34 am to
Japan uses college to catch the late bloomers. Zidane was a late bloomer as was Diego Forlan. Didier Drogba and Griezemann also come to mind.
Posted by DandA
Mandevillian
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 7/8/26 at 8:55 am to
The path to real success is getting our youth out of MLS academies and to European club academies. The younger the better. Kids in Europe grow up in the soccer culture. Our kids grow up in the baseball, basketball, NFL culture. Mens soccer has made HUGE strides in the US over the past 30 years, but we are still behind where we need to be to consistently compete. Our men will probably have to win a WC before we make the strides to get us where we should be long-term. Just like what that women's team with Chastain and Hamm did for our women's program.

I'd say give our military families serving abroad in Europe an extra incentive to get their kids involved in club academies while living over there. I would absolutely not be opposed to having a few more Dest's or Tillman's in our squad.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 7/8/26 at 8:56 am to
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Japan uses college to catch the late bloomers. Zidane was a late bloomer as was Diego Forlan. Didier Drogba and Griezemann also come to mind.


Identifying the 14, 15 and 16 years olds that are projecting to be borderline D1 football and basketball players is important. Getting some of those kids to somehow flip to soccer would be huge.
Posted by saderade
America's City
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 7/8/26 at 9:26 am to
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It’s not disingenuous at all. Every top athlete in the US would choose football over soccer right now. Most of them would choose basketball over soccer. Some of them would choose baseball over soccer.
You need to be a certain size to play football and height to play professional basketball. If you are 5’8, you have basically no chance at either of the those sports at a high level (outside of a lightning fast returner)

I wrote this in another thread but I feel like people underestimate the cultural differences in regards to soccer when compared to most European countries. Those kids grow up with a ball on their foot since the day they can walk. They play at school recess and in the streets with their friends everyday. Their entire families played and they grow up around the game. And outside of a few other minor sports, there is only soccer. These kids all have had over a million touches of the ball by the time they are only 10 yrs old. You can have the best athlete in America at 12 yrs old start playing soccer and he will never catch up from a technical standpoint .
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 7/8/26 at 9:26 am to
If they flipping from those sports to soccer, they might not be good. Rather the other way.
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
Member since Aug 2023
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Posted on 7/8/26 at 9:45 am to
Just watched a Youtbue thing about the French development system. Apparently 13-15 is the prime age for developing kids in the national team academy. After that they go off and join a club team somewhere in Europe, but 13-15 is when they get locked in.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 7/8/26 at 9:49 am to
Before that age, it's just having fun playing football. The more touches the better. After, they're learning tactics. Tom Byers is a great source on this.
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
21103 posts
Posted on 7/8/26 at 11:48 am to
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The best soccer players in the country should be professional by 18-23. Otherwise they are still behind their more advanced peers from around the world.

So make it professional. Recruit the best anywhere, even overseas.. it comes down to money. It doesn’t have to be school related, but that does help draw the fans.. and with fans comes more money for NIL.

It’s possible to have 100,000 SEC lunatics watching their teams compete on a big level. Idk to do it, but if I loved soccer and I was worth a boatload of money, I could prob pull it off.

All of these soccer players have a price, including Messi. Yes he plays in Miami, but how many people go to games? I truly don’t know.

If he was repping Alabama and Texas had Haaland.. that’s a lot of fans overnight.

Yes, I’m on drugs.. Just saying there is a world where it could work.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
38073 posts
Posted on 7/8/26 at 5:47 pm to
Check out what Wynalda is doing . He's having success and is doing it the opposite way. All IMG would care about is making the money. They would not care about tangible success for the overall sport in the US.

IMG took over Nick Bollitieri's Academy for tennis. Since then the quality of US men's tennis has been in the bathroom without toilet paper
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