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re: Official USMNT World Cup Long Thread

Posted on 6/17/14 at 12:08 am to
Posted by rdw1690
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 12:08 am to
Group G Standings after first round of games:

Team Record Points GD
Germany: 1-0-0 3 +4
: 1-0-0 3 +1
Ghana : 0-1-0 0 -1
Portgual: 0-1-0 0 -4

Second place, nerds.

Eagerly awaiting the news on Jozy's injury but I don't think we're going to see him next game. How do we adjust?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 12:11 am to
so a tie with portual pretty much ensures we make it, unless ghana can beat both germany and portugal

if ghana beats germany...tight butthole syndrome
Posted by BamaChick
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 12:29 am to
It's not Clinton with a beer and a shirtless Boca, but Biden visited the locker room.

He opened with, "This is a big fricking deal!"

Posted by rdw1690
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 12:44 pm to
In case any of you were wondering, Besler will most certainly draw some attention from some European teams after the World Cup. He had a great performance last night and barring his injury being a serious one, he will most likely continue that trend.
Posted by Mahootney
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 3:55 pm to
quote:

so a tie with portual pretty much ensures we make it, unless ghana can beat both germany and portugal
Yup.
There are several situations where the USA will advance.

USA Win vs Portugal:

- One Ghana Loss or Tie clinches... or
- Win or Tie vs Germany... or
- Advance on Goal Differential (GD) if Ghana wins out & USA loses to Germany (currently 2 goal lead).


USA Tie vs Portugal:

(USA + Germay Advance)
- Ghana loses to Germany and beats or ties Portugal ... or
- Advance on GD over Portugal (5 goal lead) with Ghana losing to Germany and Portugal.

(USA + Ghana Advance) {TL;DR - Ghana needs to beat Germany and USA needs to tie/beat Germany}
- Ghana beats Germany and Portugal & USA ties or beats Germany... or
- Ghana beats Germany and ties Portugal & USA beats Germany... or
- Ghana beats Germany and ties Portugal & USA ties Germany & advance on GD. Ghana needs to be make up 5 goals on Germany; USA needs 3 goals.

(USA + Portugal Advance) {TL;DR - not very likely}
- Ghana beats Germany, Portugal beats Ghana, & USA beats Germany... or
- Ghana beats Germany, Portugal beats Ghana, & USA ties Germany & advance on GD. Portugal needs to make up 8 goals on Germany; USA needs 3 goals.


USA Loss to Portugal:

- USA beats Germany, Germany loses to or ties Ghana... or
- US ties Germany, Germany and Portugal tie Ghana, & advance on GD (4-way tie)... or
- US ties Germany, Germany ties Ghana, Ghana beats Portugal, & advance on GD... or
- US loses to Germany, Germany beats Ghana, Ghana beats Portugal, & advance on GD.
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 3:58 pm to
quote:

He had a great performance last night and barring his injury being a serious one, he will most likely continue that trend.

Jurgen said Besler is fine.
Posted by rdw1690
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 4:47 pm to
If any of you are wondering why Jermaine is playing so well it's because he has no club to go back too once the world cup is over so he's playing for his job.

I'm only being quais-sarcastic but I can assure it is certainly contributing to his great form at the moment.
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 4:51 pm to
He should just come to an MLS club.
Posted by rdw1690
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 4:58 pm to
He certainly has options and I would assume some of those are here in the states.
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:53 pm to
I had to put this somewhere.

Posted by rdw1690
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:58 pm to
I'm still baffled as to how this wasn't a high kick and a yellow. We got screwed by the refs on a couple calls.
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 9:02 pm to
I never thought it was intentional. I thought he got off balance and was trying not to fall backwards, but I was getting another beer and only saw the slow motion replays.
Posted by Rickety Cricket
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 9:05 pm to
This Last Call show on ESPN2 isn't bad at all.
Posted by rdw1690
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 9:20 pm to
They never really showed the sequence from the regular sideline camera so that's the only view we have but I mean his boot is high so it seems like an easy call regardless of his intention.
Posted by rdw1690
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 7:49 pm to
frick Portugal

Posted by rdw1690
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 6/24/14 at 10:26 am to
Group G Standings after first round of games:

Team Record Points GD
Germany: 1-0-1 4 +4
USA : 1-0-1 4 +1
Ghana : 0-1-1 1 -1
Portgual: 0-1-1 1 -4

All Scenarios of final Group G Standings:

U.S. wins: We win the group

Germany would finish second unless Ghana or Portugal won and passed Germany on goal differential. Germany currently is plus 4, Ghana is minus 1 and Portugal is minus 4. The second place finisher plays the winner of Group H.

Germany wins: they win the group.

The U.S. would finish second unless Ghana or Portugal won and passed the U.S. on goal differential. The U.S. is plus 1, Ghana is minus 1 and Portugal is minus 4. So, if the U.S. loses to Germany, it will be rooting for Portugal, because it's less likely that Portugal could pass the U.S. on goal differential.

Germany and the U.S. draw: Germany wins the group and the U.S. finishes second.

If Ghana and Portugal draw: The U.S. and Germany advance. Germany wins the group unless the U.S. defeats them.

Other tiebreakers: In any of these scenarios involving goal differential, if two teams are tied on points and goal differential, the next tiebreaker is total goals scored. Germany has six goals, the U.S. has four, Ghana has three and Portugal has two.
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