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re: Official US vs Canada thread (airing on FSC)

Posted on 6/7/11 at 8:05 pm to
Posted by LfcSU3520
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Posted on 6/7/11 at 8:05 pm to
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Really? Not me ...



why not?

Why can't we mix the two styles or create our own brand of soccer?

And for all the talk about our athleticism, I don't really know what that means. We can run down a long ball, and then what? What about teams that break us down by keeping possession and force us to chase the game? We don't cope well with any of that.
Posted by mrsmiller
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Posted on 6/7/11 at 8:06 pm to


yeah elisha i was thinking of el gringo when i edited for utilize. i remember being so pissed when we played "bob ball" when he even got a shot at playing time.
Posted by inelishaitrust
Oxford, MS
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Posted on 6/7/11 at 8:06 pm to
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ut giveaways in your half by deep lying central midfielders lead to goals. Two in one half is too many.


There's a reason Rico Clark is a Pariah.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 6/7/11 at 8:06 pm to
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It seems I can think of two switches by Jones that were more ambitious than anything Bradley tried.



He has a slightly better angle when switching, but I was referring to forward passes. Bradley tries different passes in an effort to combine and move forward. Jones moves the ball side to side, or switches effectively, which is what I think is the role he's been assigned to play.
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
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Posted on 6/7/11 at 8:06 pm to
Jones is one of our better passers when he's on. Your center mids can't be scared to try to spray passes.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/7/11 at 8:06 pm to
hell we can't keep relying on our athleticism b/c our young guys aren't that athletic
Posted by inelishaitrust
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 6/7/11 at 8:07 pm to
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Your center mids can't be scared to try to spray passes.


Get well, Stu!
Posted by InThroughTheOutDore
Middle TN
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 6/7/11 at 8:07 pm to
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sometimes i wish i lived in baton rouge or new orleans. or just knew soccer fans here in nashville.


Senior Pablo - we need to chat!
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160203 posts
Posted on 6/7/11 at 8:07 pm to
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hell we can't keep relying on our athleticism b/c our young guys aren't that athletic


They aren't huge, but yeah they are athletic. Very quick and strong.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 6/7/11 at 8:08 pm to
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Jones is one of our better passers when he's on. Your center mids can't be scared to try to spray passes.


His passing hasn't been the problem. He's had some silly giveaways deep in our half that seem uncharacteristic for a player that seems so smooth on the ball.
Posted by inelishaitrust
Oxford, MS
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 6/7/11 at 8:08 pm to
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Very quick and strong.


Mike, Jozy, and Juan are incredibly athletic
Posted by Crede15
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 6/7/11 at 8:09 pm to
That came off the wrong way. I don't mind him switching the field and looking for good balls, not at all, but when he's under some pressure he just needs to make the simple play and avoid the give aways.
Posted by LfcSU3520
Arizona
Member since Dec 2003
24474 posts
Posted on 6/7/11 at 8:09 pm to
I think it's sort of a fake label we keep placing on our players to justify their other shortcomings.

Onyewu is huge and athletic! So what?

Clint Dempsey IMO is the best american player going and he's not more athletic than players from other countries, he's just a better soccer player.

Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160203 posts
Posted on 6/7/11 at 8:10 pm to
That's a mental thing. Must be his American side shining through
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 6/7/11 at 8:10 pm to
let me rephrase, our B squad is not athletic
Posted by TouchdownTN
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 6/7/11 at 8:10 pm to
either way we're nitpicking, Jones and Bradley both played well that half.

Dempsey spent a lot of time drifting inside and Bocanegra doesn't get up the field well enough to fill that space. Really my only complaint that half.
Posted by LfcSU3520
Arizona
Member since Dec 2003
24474 posts
Posted on 6/7/11 at 8:11 pm to
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Very quick and strong.




I kinda think it's more strong than quick.

This post was edited on 6/7/11 at 8:12 pm
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160203 posts
Posted on 6/7/11 at 8:12 pm to
You're taking it the wrong way. What we have now over other teams is athleticism. If you want to see more technical play, you'll have to probably wait 5-10 more years but with what we have now, we need to use it. Jozy is a big strong guy, think of his goal vs Spain in the Confed Cup when he outmanned Puyol.
Posted by NOSA
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/7/11 at 8:13 pm to
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What we have now over other teams is athleticism


We are more athletic than technical I agree, but I've never bought that we are more athletic than most other good teams. Ghana for instance looked clearly more athletic than the US IMO. I just don't see it as any clear advantage.
This post was edited on 6/7/11 at 8:15 pm
Posted by LfcSU3520
Arizona
Member since Dec 2003
24474 posts
Posted on 6/7/11 at 8:14 pm to
I know what you're saying.

What I'm saying is that my sincere hope is that every one of our youth teams is being drilled in playing more attractive, and free slowing soccer. Keeping the ball becoming our primary objective.

It would seem logical that if our 'better athletes' could become better at keeping the ball and developing technical skill, then we'd be ahead of the curve, no?
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