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re: Make an XI for the Gold Cup
Posted on 12/25/18 at 5:20 pm to keeper007
Posted on 12/25/18 at 5:20 pm to keeper007
quote:It's not everyone's job to make tackles. If you can cut out the dangerous passing lanes, push the ball carrier to certain areas of the field, etc., he's done his job and that's all we really need out of Nagbe. If he's playing in the middle with McKennie and Adams, we don't need him to be the guy making all the tackles, yet he's much better with the ball than either of them.
That’s everyone’s job in the midfield unless you’re in the free role that very few players have the skill set to do.
Posted on 12/25/18 at 5:23 pm to pvilleguru
quote:
I said CM. Pulisic has played on the wing for us more often than not.
Well that's just patently false.
Since the Hex began in 2017, Pulisic has played 8 matches centrally, 6 matches out wide.
In the same timespan, Nagbe has played 2 matches centrally, 12 matches out wide.
Posted on 12/25/18 at 5:23 pm to pvilleguru
Nagbe is a great shuttler but whether he plays on the wing or in midfield he needs to put in more defensive effort. Him not helping defend is why we lost against Trinidad and Tobago.
Posted on 12/25/18 at 5:25 pm to Broski
quote:Didn't know we were using a certain time period. The last two games he played on the wing and as a 2nd striker.
Since the Hex began in 2017, Pulisic has played 8 matches centrally, 6 matches out wide.
quote:Which is retarded.
In the same timespan, Nagbe has played 2 matches centrally, 12 matches out wide.
Posted on 12/25/18 at 5:26 pm to pvilleguru
quote:
Didn't know we were using a certain time period.
You said more often than not, Pulisic didn't become a real fixture for us until after the Copa America.
Posted on 12/25/18 at 5:30 pm to Broski
Regardless, Nagbe's biggest problem in finding a role with the USMNT is that he is good at a lot of positions, but is not our best option at any one position.
McKennie and Adams are better 8s than him, Pulisic is a better 10 than him. Which forces him to the wing where you have to be able to track defensively and he just doesn't do that.
McKennie and Adams are better 8s than him, Pulisic is a better 10 than him. Which forces him to the wing where you have to be able to track defensively and he just doesn't do that.
Posted on 12/25/18 at 5:34 pm to cwil177
quote:It was a shitty formation to begin with and is why I'm not advocating that we use a 2-man central midfield.
Him not helping defend is why we lost against Trinidad and Tobago.
Against T&T, Nagbe was still told to play primarily on the wing. We left the entire middle of the field to Bradley. It was just very poor tactics and understanding of the personnel.
Posted on 12/25/18 at 5:35 pm to Broski
quote:But he's still played more total games on the wing for the USMNT.
You said more often than not, Pulisic didn't become a real fixture for us until after the Copa America.
Posted on 12/25/18 at 5:37 pm to pvilleguru
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But he's still played more total games on the wing for the USMNT.
Dude...
you may want to stick to copy/pasting tweets in the tracker thread.
Posted on 12/25/18 at 5:45 pm to Broski
If you look at just the Hex matches, 5 were on the wing, 5 were as AM.
Posted on 12/25/18 at 5:48 pm to pvilleguru
Your argument was "Nagbe has been our best midfield with the ball at his feet" and I said Pulisic is better... which he is... So even if Pulisic throughout has MNT career played two more total matches on the wing than in the middle, what difference does it make, especially when we've only played Nagbe centrally twice?
Good job on trying to change the narrative by calling me out for setting a time parameter, but it did nothing to support the false thing you said that originally sparked this.
Are you telling me that if an XI was filled out besides a central midfield spot and your choices were Nagbe and Pulisic, you'd take Nagbe?
Good job on trying to change the narrative by calling me out for setting a time parameter, but it did nothing to support the false thing you said that originally sparked this.
Are you telling me that if an XI was filled out besides a central midfield spot and your choices were Nagbe and Pulisic, you'd take Nagbe?
This post was edited on 12/25/18 at 5:49 pm
Posted on 12/25/18 at 5:50 pm to Broski
quote:If I pick Nagbe, do I still get Pulisic on the wing?
Are you telling me that if an XI was filled out besides a central midfield spot and your choices were Nagbe and Pulisic, you'd take Nagbe?
Posted on 12/25/18 at 5:56 pm to pvilleguru
I think Berhalter's tactics/formation with the ball are similar enough to Tata's to where Nagbe could thrive in his natural role (especially against CONCACAF competition and with McKennie and Adams along side him) and Pulisic could play a slightly modified version of Almiron.
Posted on 12/25/18 at 6:00 pm to pvilleguru
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If I pick Nagbe, do I still get Pulisic on the wing?
Nope.
You said Nagbe is our best CM with the ball at his feet, if you truly believe that, and it came down to putting one on the field and one on the bench, you'd pick Nagbe right?
Posted on 12/25/18 at 6:14 pm to Broski
quote:It'd be hard. I think Pulisic would be better around the 18, but Nagbe's composure, experience, and knack for getting out of pressure would be invaluable. I'm also getting sick of playing players in a position that they don't regularly play for their club. I think by far our best bet would be to put Nagbe in the center, with Pulisic on the wing.
You said Nagbe is our best CM with the ball at his feet, if you truly believe that, and it came down to putting one on the field and one on the bench, you'd pick Nagbe right?
Posted on 12/25/18 at 6:18 pm to pvilleguru
quote:
It'd be hard.
I stopped reading.
I'm legit convinced that you want the USMNT to just be 23 players picked from american players from ATL United and its youth academy.
Posted on 12/25/18 at 6:31 pm to Broski
quote:We'll that's nothing near true. The only player from the academy that I think would be near the first team in years would be Bello (unless Carleton can get his act together). You don't see me suggesting Parkhurst or Larentowictsczk should be near the team.
I'm legit convinced that you want the USMNT to just be 23 players picked from american players from ATL United and its youth academy.
I don't give a frick what team the players come from (I was high on Nagbe and Garza well before they were traded/loaned/sold to Atlanta), as long as they are the best available for the system we're running.
Posted on 12/25/18 at 8:10 pm to pvilleguru
What do we have to do to get our best players on the field and start gelling together?
Posted on 12/25/18 at 10:35 pm to pvilleguru
What’s Carleton’s issue? Seems to have promise but a knucklehead?
Posted on 12/25/18 at 11:04 pm to keeper007
needs to get out of Atlanta
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