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re: Jurgen Gonna Jurgen: Reports: Mexican side Leon to sign USMNT’s Miguel Ibarra

Posted on 6/12/15 at 11:58 am to
Posted by cwil177
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Posted on 6/12/15 at 11:58 am to
I've just come to accept that he's not our coach for his tactical acumen, but rather for his ability to motivate players to work really hard and not be afraid to compete with the best. He is a great recruiter. In this sense he is a lot like Les Miles. Also, his restructuring of our developmental system has been a long time coming.
Posted by Tennessee Jed
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 6/12/15 at 12:08 pm to
quote:

I've just come to accept that he's not our coach for his tactical acumen


Yah, I imagine it's very easy to overdo it from a tactics perspective at this level. It's not like club play where the guys are together 300 days a year.

Keep it simple, keep them hungry\motivated, keep them in shape. Give them the confidence, and a green light, to play attacking football. You have to be willing to accept a beat down every once in a while.
This post was edited on 6/12/15 at 12:10 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481251 posts
Posted on 6/12/15 at 9:05 pm to
quote:

Obviously, we made it farther in 2002, and it was a bit of a coming out party, but we were still a defensively oriented team predicated on out hustling the opposition.

We came to play in 2014, and the world took notice.

we played defense/hustle in 2014 also
Posted by Tennessee Jed
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Posted on 6/13/15 at 9:41 am to
I knew someone would post that, and I completely reject the premise of it. very different game plans.

Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 6/13/15 at 10:10 am to
I disagree. In the 2014 WC, we used pretty much the same gameplan as we had in the past. The main difference that I could tell was that we encouraged our outside backs to push up the field more.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
30134 posts
Posted on 6/13/15 at 10:50 am to
A quote from Jordan Morris:

"He injects players with confidence," he said. "I think that's why we do well. Before the game, it's all positive talk. During the game, it's all positive talk. He's a huge reason why I feel confident going out and playing on this stage."
Posted by Tennessee Jed
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Posted on 6/13/15 at 11:12 am to
Exactly, actively trying to pressure the opposition. Whether they were successful or not the intent was there.

2002 was about absorbing pressure, counter attacking, and winning free kicks in dangerous positions.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 6/13/15 at 9:35 pm to
Brian Sciaretta ?@BrianSciaretta 1m1 minute ago New Jersey, USA
In his final game for the club, #usmnt mid Miguel Ibarra scores for Minnesota United in 3-2 loss to Fort Lauderdale. Next up, Club Leon.
Posted by Tuskkman
Hoover Alabama
Member since Jun 2015
1626 posts
Posted on 6/13/15 at 10:54 pm to
Yea we need Bora the bore back.

J.K. sees into the future, his message we are going to play to win.......as soon as I get the youth to learn to play forward thinking football.

Looks like his master plan is coming to pass.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
40529 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 4:15 am to
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He committed an unforgivable sin in my eyes.


I'm with you here. I'll never get over it.
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 1:24 pm to
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I would say that 2014 is probably our best WC performance in modern history. Obviously, we made it farther in 2002, and it was a bit of a coming out party, but we were still a defensively oriented team predicated on out hustling the opposition.

We came to play in 2014, and the world took notice.


Until Jozy got hurt...
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126858 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 2:41 pm to
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Until Jozy got hurt...



why does it matter to you

you shite on Jozy every chance you get

piss off
Posted by Sheep
Neither here nor there
Member since Jun 2007
19699 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 4:37 pm to
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I disagree. In the 2014 WC, we used pretty much the same gameplan as we had in the past. The main difference that I could tell was that we encouraged our outside backs to push up the field more.


2002 - Sanneh and Hejduk (Frankie played as a mid in a 3-5-2, so you could argue semantics about whether he was a mid or an outside back)
2006 - Cherundolo and Lewis/Convey (and Bocanegra tried at that point). It didn't work, but we tried it.
2010 - Cherundolo and Bornstein (not as much with Bocanegra).

Aside from the random match here or there, we pretty much play the same as we have for the last 15 years. Technique is improving, willingness to probe through the center is improving - but watch USA - Portugal, USA - Germany or USA - Mexico from 2002. The games don't look wildly different from anything in the 2014 World Cup.
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 4:44 pm to
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why does it matter to you

you shite on Jozy every chance you get


Jurgy's entire plan A at the World Cup depended on a fully fit Jozy. Because Jurgy refused to bring a like-for-like backup for Jozy, once Jozy went down Jurgy had to completely modify his strategy. The new strategy was to bunker like frick and hope the fullbacks could get loose for a raid every now and again.

To say that Jurgy played an attacking style at the World Cup after Jozy got injured is a flat lie.


Note: I'm not saying that it's a bad strategy, but it's definitely not an attacking one.
This post was edited on 6/14/15 at 5:04 pm
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160203 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 11:09 pm to
You're actually right. Jurgen wastes so many tuneup games doing dumb shite like trying out Bedoya at center mid and putting defensive mids at left mid, etc. When he should be working on a legit plan B. That's what is so frustrating to me, under him we've played some great soccer but his ego and dumbass experiments drive me insane.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
30134 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 11:19 pm to
At least he's not playing Williams at right wing any more
Posted by Sheep
Neither here nor there
Member since Jun 2007
19699 posts
Posted on 6/15/15 at 6:51 am to
We have Alfredo Morales for that.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
30134 posts
Posted on 6/15/15 at 8:55 am to
Touché
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