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re: ITS GAME DAY!!!!! USA vs Belgium|7pm ct|ESPN|
Posted on 5/29/13 at 10:27 pm to joey barton
Posted on 5/29/13 at 10:27 pm to joey barton
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He came with a lot of risk. He certainly didn't look ready during the Canadian U20 w/Adu and Bradley though he scored a few goals. He was very raw. He has improved immensely.
He evidently has some screws loose. He´s conscious of his projection, and not his reality.
Posted on 5/30/13 at 7:33 am to Dandy Lion
It was very depressing to watch this game.
Belgiums off the ball movement was direct, explosive, and opened things up in different directions. It was fun and impressive to watch.
Ours was lazy, did not open things up for other players, and of course, the ball usually did not even go to a good place.
How many times did we see a through ball or a ball over the top for a player that was not even making a run??? It was essentially a "we don't know what the @#$# to do with the ball, so lets give possession back to you".
We have a very very long way to go if we ever want to be considered really good in this sport.
Belgiums off the ball movement was direct, explosive, and opened things up in different directions. It was fun and impressive to watch.
Ours was lazy, did not open things up for other players, and of course, the ball usually did not even go to a good place.
How many times did we see a through ball or a ball over the top for a player that was not even making a run??? It was essentially a "we don't know what the @#$# to do with the ball, so lets give possession back to you".
We have a very very long way to go if we ever want to be considered really good in this sport.
Posted on 5/30/13 at 9:50 am to Tigerstark
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We have a very very long way to go if we ever want to be considered really good in this sport.
Posted on 5/30/13 at 10:41 am to Tigerstark
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We have a very very long way to go if we ever want to be considered really good in this sport.
That's ridiculous.
We made a WC quarterfinal 10 years ago, with less talent than we have now.
We won our group and were an extra time loss to Ghana from a quarterfinal in the LAST World Cup, with a coach that many thought was terrible and holding the team back.
We *are* a long way from being a Brazil/Spain/Germany powerhouse, but so are the vast majority of FIFA international teams.
Posted on 5/30/13 at 11:06 am to Tigerstark
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It was very depressing to watch this game.
first half was not bad.
Posted on 5/30/13 at 11:08 am to Sheep
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We *are* a long way from being a Brazil/Spain/Germany powerhouse, but so are the vast majority of FIFA international teams.
Exactly. I'm actually rather happy with the upward projection of the sport in America. If you told me five years ago that we would have a player playing regularly for Roma, a player who has scored double digit goals for three straight seasons playing for an English club, and a player who scored 30 plus goals for a side in a top European league, I would have told you to frick off.
This game isn't an accurate illustration of the state of U.S. soccer. The upward trend is apparent, despite the consistent myopia of this board. We won't be on par with most Western European sides because we aren't apart of the tactical conversation that is going on in Western Europe. This is also why Brazil and Argentina have lagged behind in the last ten years. We have to upgrade our tactical nous, which will only come when players in Europe (or with European schooling) come back to the states and teach the game at the youth level.
Posted on 5/30/13 at 11:13 am to Sheep
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We made a WC quarterfinal 10 years ago, with less talent than we have now. We won our group and were an extra time loss to Ghana from a quarterfinal in the LAST World Cup, with a coach that many thought was terrible and holding the team back. We *are* a long way from being a Brazil/Spain/Germany powerhouse, but so are the vast majority of FIFA international teams.
That's all true, but this current group is just so uninspiring. Feels like we are not moving forward, and I don't know whose fault that is.
JK seems clueless at times, but so do the players. Would be nice to see a true A squad play together more often.
Posted on 5/30/13 at 11:15 am to uway
I just hope we haven't overbooked our games. If you think we look uninspiring now, imagine a tired squad towards the end of WCQ. 
Posted on 5/30/13 at 12:05 pm to Sheep
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That's ridiculous.
We made a WC quarterfinal 10 years ago, with less talent than we have now.
We won our group and were an extra time loss to Ghana from a quarterfinal in the LAST World Cup, with a coach that many thought was terrible and holding the team back.
We *are* a long way from being a Brazil/Spain/Germany powerhouse, but so are the vast majority of FIFA international teams.
Sheep, I have to respectfully disagree.
We have won a grand total of 3 games in the last three World Cups. In 2002 we backed our way into the knock-out stages with a 3-1 loss to Poland and a lucky goal by S. Korea against Portugal, when both teams could have just sat there to advance, to get us in. South Korea and Japan have pretty much the same level of success as us over those three (except S. Korea reached the semis once and Japan lost in the round of 16 both times). Anyone else calling them really good?
As a team, we have almost zero creativity. We create very few good scoring opportunities.
Even we we might do something that looks promising, Jozie tries to horribly trap a cross and loses possession instead of one time shooting it.
Someone had the stat in another post - very few shots on target in our last four national team games.
Last nights game looked like 11 guys playing different systems/schemes. Rarely was communication on point. Lots of passes to no one or movements that did nothing. Maybe some of that is on Jurgen and his not coaching. Compare that to what Belgium did and we looked like a high school team in terms of tactics.
What Bob did was take the sum of our parts and say "this is the system that will give us the most success and the best chance of giving a good team trouble beating us". Klinsman is trying to turn it to a "we should be the good team that others are trying to give trouble to." How he is going about it is unknown, of course.
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