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re: Interesting article: Analyzing competitiveness in Europe's Top 4 Leagues

Posted on 3/14/14 at 9:03 am to
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 9:03 am to
Assuming the teams behind win their games in hand here is the total point differential between the first place team in each league and the rest of the top 5....

EPL- 21 points
La Liga- 46 points
Serie A- 83 points
Bundesliga- 97 points
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 9:08 am to
The problem is England doesn't have an elite team with Aguero injured and Cheslea without a striker.

Hard to argue the PL has been the most interesting league to watch this season though, imo.
Posted by hendersonshands
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 9:20 am to
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You have to admit the LFCvsChelsea is still an arbitrary matchup compared to anything RM related.




Yeah but do you have any other suggestions for a Premier League marquee matchup? Nothing I can think of comes close to Real Madrid vs Atlético or Bayern vs Dortmund (I know I'm biased here).
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 9:27 am to
Chelsea vs Manchester City (the real 2nd place team)

Chelsea vs Arsenal

Manchester City vs Arsenal

would all have higher ratings in the US against a Bayern vs Dortmund match imo
Posted by TFTC
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 9:29 am to
It's OK to throw LFC in those matchups BEAST... that would not be Homerism

edit: Time and time again all the pundits have said we are the most exciting team to watch, including Man City
This post was edited on 3/14/14 at 9:31 am
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 9:37 am to
You're right.

If Finn's is any indicator of the rest of the country at all, any LFC league match will outdraw a Bayern match. LFC vs Arsenal would crush Bayern v Dortmund ratings in the US, imo.
Posted by PTBob
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 9:39 am to
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LFC vs Arsenal would crush Bayern v Dortmund ratings in the US, imo.


no doubt about it.
Posted by joey barton
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 9:41 am to
Yeah, but LFC v. Arsenal would probably outdraw Real Madrid v. Atletico in the US, so I'm not so sure what that would prove
Posted by cwil177
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 9:43 am to
shite if we're going based on Finn's then Arsenal-Liverpool would draw more than Barca-RM. That's not even an exaggeration.
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 9:46 am to
Well I think HH might have been talking about worldwide viewing numbers, and I just flat out changed it to US specific. Either way it doesn't prove much.
Posted by TFTC
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 9:48 am to
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Atletico


This may be unpopular, but I think they would be scrapping it out for top 4 in the EPL... as we know, that fight could very well be the title too, but I dont hold them in a higher level than any of the top 4 in England.. and I have watched them play a lot..
Posted by joey barton
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 10:02 am to
I don't think that that's crazy, or anything.

Although they are an excellent team, I think they've benefited greatly from a slow-starting Real Madrid and a relatively dysfunctional Barcelona.
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 10:05 am to
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Nothing I can think of comes close to Real Madrid vs Atlético or Bayern vs Dortmund (I know I'm biased here).


How is Bayern Dortmund even remotely exciting?
Posted by hendersonshands
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 1:50 pm to
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would all have higher ratings in the US against a Bayern vs Dortmund match imo



No doubt. People are more familiar with the Premier League and those teams but I'm talking about the viewing experience here.
Posted by hendersonshands
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 1:51 pm to
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How is Bayern Dortmund even remotely exciting?




The games are always well contested and full of scoring chances. High quality soccer.
Posted by WarSlamEagle
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 3:08 pm to
Have you ever watched a Dortmund-Bayern match?
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 3:41 pm to
I watched the CL final last year. Decent match, far from noteworthy.

In terms of this thread though and the "competitiveness" of a league a Bayern Dortmund match is totally irrelevant. They would have to play like 8 times a season and BVB win everyone of them to make the games actually mean anything.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 4:10 pm to
You have to include Liverpool in it. They are one of the most exciting teams to watch in the world this season.

For an EPL match, I would probably pick City vs Liverpool (or Palace vs Stoke ).
Posted by Mr. Shake
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 5:03 pm to
There's 2 reasons I don't watch many Bundesliga matches.

Bayern is so far ahead, and the matches are on GolTV.

I mean, the Bundesliga has some exciting matches, but GolTV just sucks arse.
Posted by TN Bhoy
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 5:05 pm to
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How is Bayern Dortmund even remotely exciting?


Both managers try to win every match.
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