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re: I need advice from the soccer board for my trip to the UK this spring

Posted on 10/28/13 at 2:57 am to
Posted by Dandy Lion
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Posted on 10/28/13 at 2:57 am to
No, no. No need for all due respects, Italy is beautiful. I think both are beautiful, and any Spaniard or Italian will say the same of the other, both are very, very blessed.
Posted by BleedPurpleGold
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2005
18937 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 3:00 am to
It seems every time these threads come up you and I hijack to talk about our experiences throughout Europe.



My apologies to the OP.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
50266 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 3:02 am to
France is also a beautiful country. It is a very special part of this planet, the Northern Mediterranean.
Posted by BleedPurpleGold
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2005
18937 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 3:05 am to
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France is also a beautiful country. It is a very special part of this planet, the Northern Mediterranean.


Not a fan of urban France. Absolutely love the countryside though.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
50266 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 3:09 am to
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Not a fan of urban France. Absolutely love the countryside though.
Yeah, it´s different, but Lyon doesn´t suck, and we all know Paris is a gem.

They evolved differently, and the wars and subsequent rebuilding, as well.

I´m surprised how intact Spain is, after a savage civil war. It truly is amazing.
Posted by BleedPurpleGold
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2005
18937 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 3:13 am to
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Lyon


Wonderful little city. Definitely the exception.

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Paris is a gem.


I hate Paris.

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I´m surprised how intact Spain is, after a savage civil war. It truly is amazing.


I watched "WWII in Color" on the Military channel two days ago. Never realized how completely devastated Madrid and Barcelona were. Its incredible the amount of historical places that somehow avoided the destruction.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
50266 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 3:21 am to
To be fair, a lot was lost. A lot. However, there´s a general sensibility, which permitted that major catastrophies didn´t occur. Madrid did suffer quite a bit, but in Spanish eyes, that wasn´t as big a deal, as the city is not that old. Irreparable damage was done in smaller cities. Irreparable.

Barcelona, well, suffered much, but in spite of predating Jesus Christ by a great bit, has always remodeled itself. With elegant success, they´ve made much of what´s revered today, which is not that old. However, of great splendour.

Paris is beautiful, don´t deny it. France also has some beautiful small cities, as well.

Portugal is beautiful.
This post was edited on 10/28/13 at 3:36 am
Posted by BleedPurpleGold
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2005
18937 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 3:34 am to
Very interesting take on Spain. There seems to be some aura of antiquity around the country, whether those ancient things exist there or not. I guess that can be attributed to the Spanish attitude more than anything.

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Paris is beautiful, don´t deny it.


It is beautiful. But its people are miserable human beings. Its cultural demeanor is the antithesis of New Orleans, and for that reason I can't stand it.

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Portugal is beautiful.


Haven't been there either, but google search makes me want to go.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
50266 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 3:37 am to
Spain is very old, and it´s the earliest country of Europe, as we know it today.

Madrid is a young city, as it was a hamlet or tiny town, when the court decided to settle there, for geographic consonance. 1500´s.
This post was edited on 10/28/13 at 3:42 am
Posted by BleedPurpleGold
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2005
18937 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 3:41 am to
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Spain is very old, and it´s the first modern country of Europe.


Well I knew this. I just meant in regard to whats left after the civil war. I guess I always was under the impression that it was a pristine enclave of dark ages Catholicism. And I think the Spanish people's pride and culture are what give off the vibe of antiquity, even in places that aren't very old. Its such a deep seeded identity that it makes even the newest of places seem old.

I guess that's a bit vague. Its hard to explain exactly what I mean.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
50266 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 3:49 am to
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I guess that's a bit vague. Its hard to explain exactly what I mean.
I understand you, but this could be said about many Italians, as well.

There is a great reverence for the history of Europe, and the role the Church played in it.

I´d say Portugal is also on par, with Italy and Spain.

I don´t know who´s eroding the quickest (you´ll notice I haven´t mentioned France, which was a staunch Catholic state for much time, but I´d imagine was drawn asunder in the 1700´s, maybe earlier, I´d have to online search, yes, google, as I think it came before Napoleón).

Spain´s suffering big time, but the general savoir faire, saber estar, is still there. Something which has been lost in the rest of Europe.

In Italy, it´s isolated, but positively strong, when encountered. I love that country, in spite of all of it´s quirks. Formidable, they are.

France went to Hell.

Portugal´s like Spain, the jury is out.


ETA So that you know, I´m referring to general civility, which was something which flowed from the teachings of the Catholic church. Not that Catholics are superior to Protestants, simply, it reflects upon what´s going on culturally, as it was fundamental in the early days, of the modern era.
This post was edited on 10/28/13 at 3:58 am
Posted by BleedPurpleGold
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2005
18937 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 3:56 am to
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There is a great reverence for the history of Europe, and the role the Church played in it.


Exactly. I don't speak of the religion itself. Just that Catholic historical identity. The roots that run deep into culture.

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Something which has been lost in the rest of Europe.


Certainly. Which is sad, in a way. Whether you're religious or not. Its part of a cultural identity which is slowly eroding away.

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In Italy, it´s isolated, but positively strong, when encountered. I love that country, for all of it´s quirks.


I was in Udine visiting my girlfriend's good family friends there. They own a vineyard in the mountains along the Slovenian border and there is a monastery built in the 1300s up on the very top of a mountain there. We took the long hike up to visit it. It was unbelievably gorgeous and special to know you were in the presence of such an old place. But there were only 10 monks left, all over the age of 65. When they all die, and none come to replace them, I fear that an aspect of culture and history will be lost to the world.

It's that kind of concern I have. Its very sad.
This post was edited on 10/28/13 at 3:58 am
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
50266 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 4:00 am to
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It's that kind of concern I have. Its very sad.

Exactly. I don´t give a damn what denomination you are, although I obviously prefer Catholic, but these people are a ballast.

Like wave breakers before a great coastal city.

Nobody thinks about them, but they are very, very necessary.
Posted by BleedPurpleGold
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2005
18937 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 4:02 am to
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Like wave breakers before a great coastal city.


Great analogy. The problem is that the erosion is winning. I really think this new pope will do wonders in changing that. We can only hope.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
50266 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 4:12 am to
I´ll delete this, as I may be freaking you out. The truth hurts.
This post was edited on 10/28/13 at 4:23 am
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125538 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 5:19 am to
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I am going to try my best to get tickets to the Arsenal game that weekend.


become a member, then buy tickets

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The weekend after I am looking to take a Thomas Cook trip to either Liverpool or Man City (this will be last game of the season).


nice hit to the wallet. But both a great party cities. The northwest is def alot different than London. Esp how skanks look.

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What are the best neighborhoods to stay in London?



i like staying in kings cross
This post was edited on 10/28/13 at 5:22 am
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125538 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 5:40 am to
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This is Europe, in general.


meh just really depends where you are

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England is the exception (in general).


the brits love americans, ive only had one time where we ran into some trouble, but the dude was probably rolling on x or tripping on acid at the festival.

Also just went to A-Dam last weekend, had a fricking blast as usual. The Brits love that city. But met people from all over the world there for Amsterdam Dance Event that week. So many good vibes everytime i go to that city.
Posted by engvol
england
Member since Sep 2009
5073 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 7:09 am to
As for Portugal, Its a really popular golfing holiday destination as well. My dads just got back from one and was saying that the restaurants cant give away enough stuff because of how bad it is over there. In other words free wine with every meal!

Its also cool in that you can go see dolphins in place like the Azores (although I'm not sure if thats more unique being from the UK than it is the US).
Posted by GABlueDog
Marietta, GA
Member since Dec 2008
8045 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 10:02 am to
Let's see...France, Ireland, Portugal, Spain, Italy.

You're welcome OP.
Posted by BleedPurpleGold
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2005
18937 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 10:41 am to
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I´ll delete this, as I may be freaking you out. The truth hurts.


Didn't freak me out, I just needed to go to sleep lol.
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