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re: I don't follow soccer religiously but...

Posted on 7/14/13 at 4:53 pm to
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 7/14/13 at 4:53 pm to
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Dempsey/Donovan seem to work best in the same role.


Yes but they are effective in different ways. Donovan is more the facilitator while Dempsey is more the finisher.

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You think 4-3-2-1 (or I guess even a ...1-2) could work with CD/LD interchanging?


We'd never play it that way. Playing a 4-3-2-1 is basically impossible without world class full-backs. The only team I can remember pull it off successfully was the Milan teams of the mid-noughties, and there were some supremely extenuating circumstances that allowed them to play that way, i.e. once in a life time players.

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Would a Johnson/Bradley/Zusi midfield 3 make sense there?


Are you suggesting Eddie Johnson or Fabian Johnson ? Neither would work in central midfield, especially since we need Fabian on the flanks.

A 4-2-3-1 provides plenty of opportunity for Donovan and Dempsey to combine with one another while also giving us attacking width, as well as appropriate defensive protection.
Posted by svb
Missouri Fan
Member since Jun 2012
3127 posts
Posted on 7/14/13 at 5:21 pm to
I hope we see this in Brazil

----------Jozy----------
--Clint-Landy-Zusi--
---Holden-Bradley---

with Jones subbing in for Stu or Zusi (moving Stu out of holding role) if we need to hold a lead and then subbing GAM or Wondo in if we need a goal. And also hopefully Mix can be in the mix too as another holding mid option.
This post was edited on 7/14/13 at 5:21 pm
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 7/14/13 at 6:35 pm to
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Yes but they are effective in different ways. Donovan is more the facilitator while Dempsey is more the finisher


If they are occupying the same space, does it matter?

Fair enough on the 4-3-2-1 needing excellent fullbacks and strong central mids.

I agree on the 4-2-3-1 being the best fit for the talent on hand. Just curious about how to get the most out of Dempsey and Donovan of they both want to be up the field and in the middle.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
30134 posts
Posted on 7/14/13 at 6:54 pm to
Crazy, what do you think our best lineup/formation is?
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
15251 posts
Posted on 7/14/13 at 8:48 pm to
I don't know too much about soccer tactics but would this work?

-----Jozy------
CD--Stu--LD
Cameron--- Bradley
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126858 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 6:18 am to
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s it possible for us to have jozy, Donavan, wondo and Dempsey all on the field at the same time


no b/c wondo is a long shot to make the WC roster to begin with
Posted by Sheep
Neither here nor there
Member since Jun 2007
19699 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 8:22 am to
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no b/c wondo is a long shot to make the WC roster to begin with


I disagree, but I think he'll only be brought as an emergency sub to chase goals late in games.

In fact, if the four players mentioned in the OP are on the field at the same time, I'd guess that we're down a goal, and in desperate need of one.
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
21061 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 9:11 am to
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I disagree, but I think he'll only be brought as an emergency sub to chase goals late in games.


Agreed.

As for LD and Deuce on the field at the same time, I will initially have the fear of them trying to occupy the same space until I see otherwise. LD can play the wings more effectively than Deuce so I would be more inclined to put him at the LM of the 4-2-3-1. When he drifts inside, Fabian can provide width
Posted by WarSlamEagle
Manchester United Fan
Member since Sep 2011
24611 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 9:13 am to
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Agreed.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
40042 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 1:57 pm to
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Crazy, what do you think our best lineup/formation is?



Probably a 4-2-3-1. It gets our best players on the field at the same time, provides attacking width, and gives us good defensive shape.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126858 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 2:00 pm to
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I disagree, but I think he'll only be brought as an emergency sub to chase goals late in games.


im not saying he sucks but we have lots of guys ahead of him in the pool, he will be battling for one of the last sports on the WC roster esp being already 30 and only 12 caps the gold cup might be his ceiling
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
40042 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 2:04 pm to
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but we have lots of guys ahead of him in the pool


Do we really? Jozy is obviously number one, and there really isn't a clear number two yet. Lots of promise, but no one has stepped up yet. Striker might be our weakest position behind LB, where we have a real dearth of international quality.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126858 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 2:36 pm to
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Do we really?


Jozy for sure

LD or Duece depending on how they are used

then id say Herc, GAM, and T Boyd would be ahead of him
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
21061 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 2:50 pm to
quote:

Jozy for sure

LD or Duece depending on how they are used


Agreed.

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Herc


He closed that gap quite a bit

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GAM


Hasn't really been deployed as a striker all that much

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T Boyd


No
Posted by Sheep
Neither here nor there
Member since Jun 2007
19699 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 3:02 pm to
quote:

T Boyd


LOLwut?
Posted by WarSlamEagle
Manchester United Fan
Member since Sep 2011
24611 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 3:29 pm to
quote:

T Boyd

Really like the dude, but no.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126858 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 3:38 pm to
quote:

Really like the dude, but no.


klins has a hard on for him, maybe not for all the right reason, i could see him being that young player that usually goes for the "experience" even with no shot at playing
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