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Posted on 7/14/13 at 9:09 am
Posted by Westlakeguy10
La
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Posted on 7/14/13 at 9:09 am
Is it possible for us to have jozy, Donavan, wondo and Dempsey all on the field at the same time. I haven't seen this lineup figured I'd ask even if ridicule was coming my way. If I'm crazy please clarify what our most likely starting lineup will be in the World Cup.
Posted by GeauxColonels
Tottenham Fan | LSU Fan
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 7/14/13 at 9:12 am to
Sure.

Next question.
Posted by Westlakeguy10
La
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Posted on 7/14/13 at 9:21 am to
Would the line up be affective or would we be costing our selves something ?
Posted by Gmorgan4982
Member since May 2005
101750 posts
Posted on 7/14/13 at 9:56 am to
It doesn't seem like Klinsmann likes to use two strikers like Jozy and Wondo but under the right tactics, it seems like it would work, although I don't think Wondo is one of our two best strikers.
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 7/14/13 at 11:21 am to
Yes.

I highly doubt we ever see that lineup other than a desperate push for a late goal(s). Wondo looks very good, but I dont think he's good enough to warrant a shift in tactics at the start of games.

JK loves his 4-2-3-1. Someone with more tactical knowledge can correct me, but maybe they could do something funky like a 3-4-1-2 or a 4-1-3-2 but that doesnt seem like something JK would try unless he had to.
Posted by GeauxColonels
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Posted on 7/14/13 at 11:24 am to
Personally I think we have to keep with a back line of 4 or we run the risk of giving up way too many easy goals.
Posted by NOTORlOUSD
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2010
5051 posts
Posted on 7/14/13 at 11:30 am to
I initially read the OP as an expression of frustration that we never have Dempsey and Donovan on the field at the same time.

I think the lineup for next year's WC will be Jozy as lone striker, Dempsey and Donovan (plus Holden/Zusi) as attacking mids and Wondo off the bench.
Posted by itawambadog
America, F Yeah!
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 7/14/13 at 12:05 pm to
You should follow it more, a lot more fun than church
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
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160203 posts
Posted on 7/14/13 at 12:33 pm to
Two strikers is kind of antiquated. Most teams would prefer another midfielder to win/retain possession.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
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Member since Dec 2010
31264 posts
Posted on 7/14/13 at 12:52 pm to
With a national team, I think you should build a formation around our talent versus a club where you buy certain players to fit the system.

If the US had two stud strikers, then I would use a two striker formation even if it is antiquated. However, I think we have settled into our 4231 nicely.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 7/14/13 at 1:18 pm to
quote:

maybe they could do something funky like a 3-4-1-2 or a 4-1-3-2 but that doesnt seem like something JK would try unless he had to.


We currently have been using the latter in the Gold Cup.
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 7/14/13 at 2:03 pm to
quote:

We currently have been using the latter in the Gold Cup


Interesting.

Watched the pre Gold Cup friendly, but wasn't able to watch the first 2 GC games.

What's the lineup been like? Is Donovan playing higher up?
Posted by WarSlamEagle
Manchester United Fan
Member since Sep 2011
24611 posts
Posted on 7/14/13 at 2:12 pm to
I want Wondo to be a bench option for the US in 2014. Need a goal? Altidore having a rough match? Send in the Goonie.

I hate two striker systems, FWIW.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
40042 posts
Posted on 7/14/13 at 2:16 pm to
I really don't like the two striker system we've been using in the GC, or at the very least, the way we have been executing it. We look better in the double pivot. We don't have a striker on the GC roster that can play the lone striker all that well, so he needs a partner close by, but I would prefer Bob's empty bucket to the single pivot.
Posted by WarSlamEagle
Manchester United Fan
Member since Sep 2011
24611 posts
Posted on 7/14/13 at 2:18 pm to
quote:

We look better in the double pivot.

Yes sir. Give me Holden and Bradley.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
30134 posts
Posted on 7/14/13 at 2:20 pm to
quote:

Yes sir. Give me Holden and Bradley.

Would blow my load. Everywhere.

Also, in regards to the LD question, he started the tourney playing in the middle of the 3 in the 4-2-3-1 but then pushed up to forward to support the other forward, a move that has paid dividends. That said, I think LD has more freedom to roam a bit.
Posted by Sheep
Neither here nor there
Member since Jun 2007
19699 posts
Posted on 7/14/13 at 2:34 pm to
Holden looked gassed at about the 60th.

That will come with time (I guess), but I'd be surprised if he put in a full 90 in the Gold Cup.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
40042 posts
Posted on 7/14/13 at 2:47 pm to
I like LD at forward, but he needs a free role. I like him as a deep lying forward rather than a poacher. He can fill in nicely in all three positions behind the striker, which is a nice problem to have, especially as Dempsey can do the same.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
30134 posts
Posted on 7/14/13 at 3:04 pm to
I like Donovan centrally/withdrawn because it allows him to get more involved in building up the attack. Like Dempsey he is good with making late runs (and runs in general, to be honest) into the box and his soccer IQ is better than anyone on the current GC roster, and top 3 on the full team. His passing and composure is pretty impressive.
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 7/14/13 at 4:04 pm to
Interesting.

Dempsey/Donovan seem to work best in the same role. You think 4-3-2-1 (or I guess even a ...1-2) could work with CD/LD interchanging?

Would a Johnson/Bradley/Zusi midfield 3 make sense there? Would JK ever leave out Jones like that and would that be enough protection for the back 4?
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