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Hillsborough disaster, how did this happen?

Posted on 5/4/16 at 8:19 pm
Posted by TT9
Seychelles
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 8:19 pm
I'm still struggling to figure it out.
Posted by cheesesteak501
The South
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 8:24 pm to
Police didn't know what they were doing. Allowed way to many people into stadium under their watch. something of that sort.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 8:28 pm to
There's a good documentary on it.
Posted by TT9
Seychelles
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 9:05 pm to
Link me.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 9:09 pm to
I think it's difficult for most of us as Americans to understand the culture of the gated SRO sections so the whole concept is very foreign. That's piece A and piece B is the colossal frick up of a cop Duckenfield was
Posted by John Keating
College Green, Ireland
Member since Jan 2015
2593 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 9:11 pm to
Too many people were let into one end of the stadium until people were pressing against other people. There was a high iron fence across that end of the stadium. A crush developed. People were pressed against each other and the stadium to such a degree that many were asphyxiated because they could not breathe. It took a while to realize the seriousness of the situation and open some gates to allow people to spill out from the crush zone.
Posted by TT9
Seychelles
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 9:23 pm to
I've seen the pictures, it's just hard for me to get my head around.

Football in Europe is the sport, and has been forever. Just unbelievable how that could've happened.
Posted by Tigerfan7218
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 9:30 pm to
If you have netflix, look up the 30 for 30 titled "Hillsborough"
Posted by John Keating
College Green, Ireland
Member since Jan 2015
2593 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 10:15 pm to
Yes, it should not have happened. Poor planning and decision making on behalf of authorities combined with a fervent interest to see that match to create the disaster that unfolded. People were pressed against one another for a while; it took quite some time for people to asphyxiate. Failure to respond to the crisis in a timely manner was disastrous.
Posted by manwich
You've wanted my
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 10:23 pm to
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piece B is the colossal frick up of a cop Duckenfield was
ultimately yes, but it should be pointed out that he was trying to relieve the crush at the turnstiles when he opened the extra gate. In any case, this scenario should have been planned for in advance
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 10:24 pm to
The UK is not Europe
Posted by kilo
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Posted on 5/5/16 at 3:05 am to
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 5/5/16 at 6:27 am to
Too many people were let in. For some reason a cop opened a section that is used for exiting. Fans go in, don't notice people at the front are getting crushed.

On top of that, more lives could have been saved supposedly. Cops also made up that the fans were kicking and spitting on them while trying to help. Which was complete bullshite. Blamed in on rowdy Liverpool fans.

Well they fricked with the wrong people. Just persons in the media making a joke about it lost their jobs. Liverpool fans went after everyone. And Won.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 5/5/16 at 6:29 am to
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ultimately yes, but it should be pointed out that he was trying to relieve the crush at the turnstiles when he opened the extra gate. In any case, this scenario should have been planned for in advance


They also had a crush there multiple times before. They knew it would happen. It went ignored.
This post was edited on 5/5/16 at 6:30 am
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 5/5/16 at 7:06 am to
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Football in Europe is the sport, and has been forever. Just unbelievable how that could've happened.



Not sure what you are saying here.

Look up The Who in Cincinnati
Posted by Tigerstark
Parts unknown
Member since Aug 2011
7128 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 7:32 am to
quote:

ultimately yes, but it should be pointed out that he was trying to relieve the crush at the turnstiles when he opened the extra gate. In any case, this scenario should have been planned for in advance


It was planned for in advance. Hell, this wasn't the first crush incident at that stadium in the exact same area - just the one where people died.

The police even had a name for the manuever to keep people from heading into that pen.

Duckenfield had no reason or experience to be appointed to commander for the match, and didn't do any real prep work for it. He was only concerned with fan behavior.
Posted by RandySavage
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Member since May 2012
35826 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 9:03 am to
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Liverpool fans went after everyone. And Won


Did they?
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