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re: For those whose favorite club is abroad.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 4:19 pm to Tigertown in ATL
Posted on 2/2/15 at 4:19 pm to Tigertown in ATL
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But if MLS continues to grow and expand and improve, why not have an MLS team you support and whatever one or ones you have gotten attached to in Europe?
Maybe so.. I was a Laker fan growing up, but became a Hornets/Pelicans fan once NOLA finally got a team... That may be a bad example, cause I kinda quit caring about basketball and am more of a casual fan now..
Posted on 2/2/15 at 4:23 pm to SwaggerCopter
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I can't think of a possible reason that MLS could become better though. It's like asking a what if that involves Jeremy Lin being better than Michael Jordan.
Just think of it as hypothetical.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 4:26 pm to TFTC
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That may be a bad example
I think it is a fair example.
People change, move, etc.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 5:01 pm to cheesesteak501
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When MLS becomes relevant to the world, and produces elite players, are you going to stick to your foreign club or commit to an American side?
I couldn't speak personally because I lived in Rome the majority of my adult life and there'll never be another club for me.
However, I think the majority of posters on this site, who are mainly EPL fans, have invested a lot of years and passion into following their clubs, even if from abroad, and are not going to simply drift away.
Hypothetically speaking, since I doubt MLS nears the level of the top 4 or so European leagues in our lifetimes, the difference would likely be that more Americans would choose MLS clubs to follow in the first place instead of European ones.
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I doubt Man United or Barcelona fans choose another team across the world to root for.
This may get some rolled eyes simply because these are two clubs whose huge international fan bases dwarf their regional ones and that usually also fervently support smaller local clubs.
Maybe not quite as much as Juve and Real Madrid but they are also clubs with domestic fan bases who are often criticized for following them because they win but also follow a smaller local club in direct competition with them.
Kind of like if I were from San Diego and an "avid" fan of the San Diego Padres and New York Yankees.
This post was edited on 2/2/15 at 9:22 pm
Posted on 2/2/15 at 5:27 pm to GeauxColonels
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Why would I have to only choose 1?
Exactly. Can be a fan of both.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 6:18 pm to SwaggerCopter
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But do you see any basketball leagues competing with the NBA any time soon? The MLS is the equivalent of Euro basketball. Long way off.
i agree with your conclusion that the league is a long ways away from being that level, but MLS is way closer than euro basketball and actually has a chance at one day making it. nothing will ever surpass the NBA.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 6:54 pm to cheesesteak501
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I doubt Man United or Barcelona fans choose another team across the world to root for.
FC Barcelona basketball fans probably choose a favorite NBA team though. It's literally no different than us fans stateside choosing an EPL, La Liga, or Bundesliga team.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 9:12 pm to AirRaidTT
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FC Barcelona basketball fans probably choose a favorite NBA team though. It's literally no different than us fans stateside choosing an EPL, La Liga, or Bundesliga team.
That has nothing to do with this.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 9:25 pm to cheesesteak501
It's called an analogy.
Both leagues are a joke, so they choose a team in a real league outside their own country.
And to answer your question, it's extremely hard to get into the MLS. The supporters are mediocre at most of the clubs and the atmosphere is sub-par at best. It's getting better though, I suppose. SKC, Portland, etc. have pretty rowdy atmospheres.
But it's kind of difficult to go all-in for an MLS club once you get hooked on your EPL club, even if the quality is substantially better than it was a few years ago.
Both leagues are a joke, so they choose a team in a real league outside their own country.
And to answer your question, it's extremely hard to get into the MLS. The supporters are mediocre at most of the clubs and the atmosphere is sub-par at best. It's getting better though, I suppose. SKC, Portland, etc. have pretty rowdy atmospheres.
But it's kind of difficult to go all-in for an MLS club once you get hooked on your EPL club, even if the quality is substantially better than it was a few years ago.
This post was edited on 2/2/15 at 9:36 pm
Posted on 2/2/15 at 9:56 pm to cheesesteak501
Only if New Orleans gets a team, but in that situation I'd be a fan of both. I've invested too much time, love, and money into Liverpool to ever have any other team eclipse its importance.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 10:27 pm to cheesesteak501
leeds will always be my favorite club team, i kind of support houston since im from there but IDGAF if they win or lose or draw like i do with leeds
Posted on 2/2/15 at 11:00 pm to S
I live about two hours from DFW and since they got the Dallas Burn (Thank God they changed it) AKA FC Dallas, I have kept up with them along with Man City (Chose them back in high school because they were the same color my school's team was and it was before Mansour). I'll go to several FC Dallas games a year because it's cheap as hell, but I definitely keep up with City much more
This post was edited on 2/2/15 at 11:01 pm
Posted on 2/3/15 at 12:27 am to SwaggerCopter
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I can't think of a possible reason that MLS could become better though. It's like asking a what if that involves Jeremy Lin being better than Michael Jordan.
no
And it all depends where you are from. Most of you guys don't have a local MLS club (yet) so you don't have a geographical connection to any team really.
I follow MLS for two different reasons; Sporting KC is my favorite club, and most current and many future USMNT players are playing in MLS right now. Basically every team in the league has a guy that is in the national team picture in one way or another, or they have a guy that is just really fricking good and fun to watch.
This post was edited on 2/3/15 at 12:34 am
Posted on 2/3/15 at 12:31 am to svb
Is MLS suddenly going to have more tradition than the Premier League? Better talent? Better coaching? LONG WAY to go. The hypothetical is just so far out there. That's my point. The Premier League is just class. There have fewer home grown players every year, but it doesn't matter. Elite talent from all over the world wants to play there.
Posted on 2/3/15 at 12:35 am to SwaggerCopter
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Is MLS suddenly going to have more tradition than the Premier League? Better talent? Better coaching? LONG WAY to go. The hypothetical is just so far out there. That's my point. The Premier League is just class. There have fewer home grown players every year, but it doesn't matter. Elite talent from all over the world wants to play there.
I'm not disagreeing with your point, obviously you're right. But using a Jeremy Lin and Michael Jordan comparison just didn't really make sense to me.
Posted on 2/3/15 at 12:42 am to svb
Jeremy Lin = MLS
Michael Jordan = Premier League
I just don't see the point in a hypothetical about Lin being better than Jordan because it's absurd and seemingly impossible.
Michael Jordan = Premier League
I just don't see the point in a hypothetical about Lin being better than Jordan because it's absurd and seemingly impossible.
Posted on 2/3/15 at 1:09 am to cheesesteak501
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When MLS becomes relevant to the world, and produces elite players,
For countless reasons this won't even be happening in the next 20 years unless the MLS makes some big changes.
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are you going to stick to your foreign club or commit to an American side?
Pretty sure most of us already have an MLS side.
But United is my #1 and that will never change.
Posted on 2/3/15 at 2:00 am to TFTC
Other than the USMNT, I don't have a favorite team. Never have. Of course, I prefer watching some teams to others, based on playing style or players I liked to watch, fans, stadiums, whatever. But picking a random team in a foreign country kinda always felt weird to me. My favorite sports teams growing up were the Saints, LSU football, and the Braves. All the teams I rooted for usually had some sort of regional connection or passed down from my dad. I didn't have any real connections to any of the teams over there, except for the clubs that had some our best national team guys (Dempsey at Fulham, for example).
I'm more a fan of the spectacle of it all, rather than having a rooting interest on how any particular club does. I just love watching the big, rich arse clubs with all of the best players play each other
It's an awesome TV product.
The big time European leagues and International tournaments are just so damn fun to watch. I follow the EPL and the Champions League pretty closely, and the other big leagues in Europe, but more from a distance. The product those leagues and tournaments offer are just so far superior to anything MLS is capable of right now. And while the MLS is no doubt growing, those leagues are growing too. I just can't see how the MLS will ever be able to get to a point where it's on par with the league in England, Spain, Germany, or Italy.
And as long as the NFL and NBA continue to absolutely kill it with the young audience, all of us will be dead by the time MLS gets close to those guys. It is what it is though, and getting better.
I'm more a fan of the spectacle of it all, rather than having a rooting interest on how any particular club does. I just love watching the big, rich arse clubs with all of the best players play each other
The big time European leagues and International tournaments are just so damn fun to watch. I follow the EPL and the Champions League pretty closely, and the other big leagues in Europe, but more from a distance. The product those leagues and tournaments offer are just so far superior to anything MLS is capable of right now. And while the MLS is no doubt growing, those leagues are growing too. I just can't see how the MLS will ever be able to get to a point where it's on par with the league in England, Spain, Germany, or Italy.
And as long as the NFL and NBA continue to absolutely kill it with the young audience, all of us will be dead by the time MLS gets close to those guys. It is what it is though, and getting better.
Posted on 2/3/15 at 3:54 am to mynamebowl
I know one of the big arguments on this topic is that the MLS is way behind the BPL and other leagues and that is a fact. However, does the Giovinco signing not somewhat send a message that the MLS is growing in its competitive nature?
I don't really keep up with Juventus, but I know he was a decent player, who is somewhat in his prime, who was having trouble finding playing time for a pretty good side. Is it possible that other above average players could make the switch to maybe grow their brand and possibly become a big time player over here? It wouldn't surprise me, but the whole squad cap on big time players would have to change for that happen.
I don't really keep up with Juventus, but I know he was a decent player, who is somewhat in his prime, who was having trouble finding playing time for a pretty good side. Is it possible that other above average players could make the switch to maybe grow their brand and possibly become a big time player over here? It wouldn't surprise me, but the whole squad cap on big time players would have to change for that happen.
Posted on 2/3/15 at 4:17 am to McCaigBro69
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However, does the Giovinco signing not somewhat send a message that the MLS is growing in its competitive nature?
No it shows the MLS is keeping up with the paying well over market value for guys.
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I don't really keep up with Juventus, but I know he was a decent player, who is somewhat in his prime, who was having trouble finding playing time for a pretty good side. Is it possible that other above average players could make the switch to maybe grow their brand and possibly become a big time player over here? It wouldn't surprise me, but the whole squad cap on big time players would have to change for that happen.
Hes a fringe first teamer at Juve. His downfall was being to loyal to Juve. He could start at a lot of mid table to lower end Italian teams but no one is going to pay that absurd amount he is making.
Unfortunately the standard has been set and its on of the reasons free agency is a hot topic in the MLS. The MLS has outgrown its structure. If the MLS wants to flood the league with over paying for average Euro players to improve the league. Then its current set up wont allow it
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