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Posted on 6/16/12 at 4:06 pm to
Posted by Supernova
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 6/16/12 at 4:06 pm to
I knew the Croats were going to be racist if Balotelli played. For the shear reason he made those comments about killing fans. It's like throwing gasoline into a fire. All he did was give them motive
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 6/16/12 at 5:50 pm to
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I knew the Croats were going to be racist if Balotelli played. For the shear reason he made those comments about killing fans. It's like throwing gasoline into a fire. All he did was give them motive



I knew a faction of Croats were going to be racist if Balotelli played for the sheer reason that the Croatian racists are racist.

It doesn't matter whether Balotelli congratulated them on their deeply heartfelt beliefs instead of saying he'd like to kill them, they'd be racists.

It's hard to see deflecting even the most minute portion of the blame toward Balotelli's comments.

In fact, there's been racist chants towards him for two straight matches and it seems he hasn't done anything aside from playing soccer.


The only thing Balotelli could really do to not have that faction of Croat/Spanish racist fans react towards him is not be black.

That's probably where the anger behind his comments derives.



Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
51416 posts
Posted on 6/16/12 at 6:43 pm to
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Spanish


eeeeehh, don't lump us in there.
Posted by WarSlamEagle
Manchester United Fan
Member since Sep 2011
24611 posts
Posted on 6/16/12 at 6:44 pm to
*lights a flare*

Who's next?
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126858 posts
Posted on 6/16/12 at 6:51 pm to
Lulz the Spanish are some of the worst thing is though other parts of Europe are racist to them b/c they can be a lil tan
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9760 posts
Posted on 6/16/12 at 7:04 pm to
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Spanish


eeeeehh, don't lump us in there.



I said "factions" of Spanish fans, which is the case.

According to what I've read in the newspapers, UEFA's investigation into the group of Spanish fans chanting "monkey noises" at Balotelli is based just as much on witnesses/testimony from other Spanish fans who were outraged at the behavior of the racist group.

In my post, I tried not to generalize "all" Croatians either.

However, we all know that pretty much every country has these right wing, racist factions. In fact, I find it a pretty positive thing that other Spanish fans are speaking out about it. I'd hope that Italian fans would/will do the same in the future. The best way to curtail this behavior at matches is probably that it's policed from other fans becoming intolerant and not simply from the outside.

This post was edited on 6/16/12 at 7:07 pm
Posted by whodidthat
Member since Aug 2011
5896 posts
Posted on 6/17/12 at 2:25 am to
Goes to show that racism can happen anywhere. Even countries who only have like 20-30 black people in the WHOLE country.
Posted by Poodlebrain
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Posted on 6/17/12 at 10:26 am to
Anyone who has ever been to Croatia and met people who lived through WWII knows how much the Croats despise the Italians. My relatives who lived through the occupation tell me horror stories about their Italian occupiers and how much better they were treated by the Germans after the Italians surrendered. Balotelli was abused by Croatian fans as much for being Italian as for being black.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 6/17/12 at 10:54 am to
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Balotelli was abused by Croatian fans as much for being Italian as for being black.


bullshite!!


Throw bananas and monkey chant Balotelli and only Balotelli specifically because they hate Italians but make no other noteworthy protest?
Boy, that really shows Italy!

Croatia has a faction of idiot racist fans that were acting like racist fools because they are racist fools.

Wh does everyone keep trying to excuse or explain them?

This post was edited on 6/17/12 at 11:02 am
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
51416 posts
Posted on 6/17/12 at 11:08 am to
Not all Croatians are hunky dory with their country being Italy's Disneyland.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
51416 posts
Posted on 6/17/12 at 11:17 am to
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Lulz the Spanish are some of the worst thing is though other parts of Europe are racist to them b/c they can be a lil tan


Love how you positively assert your asinine opinions with experiential cause and conviction.

Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9760 posts
Posted on 6/17/12 at 11:23 am to
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Not all Croatians are hunky dory with their country being Italy's Disneyland.


So you agree that they singled out Balotelli to throw bananas at and chant racist slogans at largely to protest Italy?

Wouldn't these racists Croatian fools perhaps know that the right wing Italian assholes to blame for any problem they have with Italy could care less?? You know, since they're racists too!

Seriously.


There sure are a lot of excuses on here for their activity. I suppose everyone gets all defensive when someone from their country/region is accused of racism but that's part of the problem.

Glad so many Spanish fans stood up to the group of racists they had chanting Balotelli instead of simply blaming it on WWII.

This post was edited on 6/17/12 at 11:30 am
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126858 posts
Posted on 6/17/12 at 11:53 am to
To ignore xenophobia in Spain is just redic
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
51416 posts
Posted on 6/17/12 at 12:11 pm to
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So you agree that they singled out Balotelli to throw bananas at and chant racist slogans at largely to protest Italy?

No, I do not.
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Glad so many Spanish fans stood up to the group of racists they had chanting Balotelli instead of simply blaming it on WWII.


wut?
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
51416 posts
Posted on 6/17/12 at 12:13 pm to
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To ignore xenophobia in Spain is just redic

Spain is no more xenophobic than the US, and up until recently, much less so.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126858 posts
Posted on 6/17/12 at 12:17 pm to
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Spain is no more xenophobic than the US, and up until recently, much less so.



i think we will just agree to disagree b/c that statement is pretty absurd
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
51416 posts
Posted on 6/17/12 at 12:18 pm to
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b/c that statement is pretty absurd

on what you do base your assertion that the statement is absurd?

I speak from extensive, real in person experience, not some hack job press I randomly pull from the internet.
This post was edited on 6/17/12 at 12:23 pm
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
91812 posts
Posted on 6/17/12 at 12:26 pm to
God its a huge deal over there. I hate when peeps throw the racism card out over here, well its way worse in other countries. Its also a stereotype put on sputherners, bs.

Oh and i got the hatred whilst in spain. Not from the younger generation, but the older ones didnt like foreigners. Talk ab some rude bent out if shape people.
This post was edited on 6/17/12 at 12:33 pm
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9760 posts
Posted on 6/17/12 at 12:34 pm to
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Glad so many Spanish fans stood up to the group of racists they had chanting Balotelli instead of simply blaming it on WWII.

wut?


Lingering hostilities from WWII seemed to be the excuse above for the Croatian fans racist chants toward Balotelli. I suppose their racists think they were only occupied by black Italians.



By that same logic, the Spanish fans, who in my opinion did the right thing by reporting the smaller group of fans chanting at Balotelli, would have just excused them on some past history between the countries and not confronted it as racism.

You are aware of this story?

Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
51416 posts
Posted on 6/17/12 at 12:36 pm to
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You are aware of this story?

Past history between Spain and Italy? No.
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