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re: FC Cincinnati Owner Divulges Info Regarding MLS Expansion
Posted on 4/26/16 at 11:11 am to John Keating
Posted on 4/26/16 at 11:11 am to John Keating
It's only been a couple games, but the city is buzzing about this team.
The ticket pricing is fantastic and playing on a college campus with amazing deals for college students is pretty brilliant. You still have to let the novelty of it all wear off before actually evaluating the support of the team though.
The ticket pricing is fantastic and playing on a college campus with amazing deals for college students is pretty brilliant. You still have to let the novelty of it all wear off before actually evaluating the support of the team though.
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Posted on 4/26/16 at 3:04 pm to John Keating
Those cities should band together and start their own league. Look what a shitty job MLS has done developing the domestic game:
Posted on 4/26/16 at 3:06 pm to MLSter
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damn this just makes me want a promotion and relegation system even more. Let teams like this with a large fan base and a determined management get the chance to make it in off of skill instead of meeting certain finical and political benchmarks
What MLS is doing makes sense to me. A club must show that it has those three critical benchmarks (ownership, stadium, fan & business support) for inclusion. What FC Cincinnati is doing is fantastic but what Garber said also makes absolute sense. For example, Cincinnati has no stadium plan. Is it in the best interest for a MLS club to have no stadium and instead play on a university campus long term? FC Cincinnati has no training ground and has no plans to establish one. There is no infrastructure at this point in time. Contrast that reality with Atlanta United currently in the process of building a $60M world class training ground and academy.
MLS is looking to establish clubs on sound footing. This is still a young and growing league and it is exciting for someone like me to watch it develop before my eyes. I believe that it will be a top world class league, not by 2022 but probably around 15-20 years from now.
Promotion and relegation is something I favor once the league has been firmly developed and established. Now is not that time. In the future I like the concept of MLS and MLS2 with around say 40 clubs. I do not subscribe to the notion that the current MLS ownership and leadership is simply looking to maintain their monopoly and enrich themselves. I believe they are absolutely looking to grow and develop MLS into a stronger, richer, broader, and better league. It is in everyone's best interests to do so.
So I do not take the reality that MLS does not institute promotion and relegation now as a sign that they do not want to make the league better. They are still bringing in investment to the league and that investment is in fact going to academy and youth development, infrastructure, marketing, and all the aspects that are going to make the league better in the future.
And some may not understand the hand that MLS has in USL. MLS is directly involved in the growth of USL and bringing great soccer clubs like FC Cincinnati and others to communities.
Posted on 4/26/16 at 3:08 pm to John Keating
There will never be relegation in this country.
Posted on 4/26/16 at 3:10 pm to John Keating
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I do not subscribe to the notion that the current MLS ownership and leadership is simply looking to maintain their monopoly and enrich themselves.
That's very naive of you
Posted on 4/26/16 at 3:12 pm to John Keating
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And some may not understand the hand that MLS has in USL.
It's entirely related to putting the squeeze on NASL
Posted on 4/26/16 at 3:12 pm to STB
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There will never be relegation in this country.
What else can you tell me about the future?
Posted on 4/26/16 at 3:14 pm to John Keating
You die.
Posted on 4/26/16 at 3:16 pm to STB
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STB
How's Lyon doing?
Posted on 4/26/16 at 3:17 pm to Draconian Sanctions
If I were to answer that question, it would be the first time I've ever talked about them on this board.
Posted on 4/26/16 at 3:18 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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That's very naive of you
I don't believe so. I believe MLS wants soccer to grow and get better in the US and I think what they are doing by establishing clubs on solid footing across the US, developing soccer infrastructure and academies, and bringing soccer to people is a great thing.
I doubt many people would prefer to not have Atlanta United and go back to the NASL Atlanta Silverbacks. You might, but I doubt many would share your opinion.
Posted on 4/26/16 at 3:19 pm to STB
2nd after the time you claimed them in the who do you support thread
Posted on 4/26/16 at 3:23 pm to Draconian Sanctions
You KNOW Garber is salivating over getting Proctor & Gamble on board.
Posted on 4/26/16 at 3:23 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Then I guess I should have clarified that I enjoy watching them but would not consider myself a supporter. Besides, the MLS is a better product than Ligue 1, agreed?
Posted on 4/26/16 at 3:28 pm to John Keating
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I don't believe so. I believe MLS wants soccer to grow and get better in the US and I think what they are doing by establishing clubs on solid footing across the US, developing soccer infrastructure and academies, and bringing soccer to people is a great thing.
Considering the way MLS/SUM is structured, it's pretty obvious it's being used mainly as a tax shelter, which means there's a direct incentive for the owners to "lose money" on MLS.
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I doubt many people would prefer to not have Atlanta United and go back to the NASL Atlanta Silverbacks. You might, but I doubt many would share your opinion.
And there are ten times more in Atlanta who follow soccer in Europe closely yet ignore all domestic leagues. I can't really say I blame them and it will never change as long as the MLS/USSF cartel continues to block access and protect MLS' d1 monopoly.
Posted on 4/26/16 at 3:35 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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And there are ten times more in Atlanta who follow soccer in Europe closely yet ignore all domestic leagues.
Even if this was true, you know that'll change once Atlanta's team gets going, right?
Posted on 4/26/16 at 3:37 pm to WarSlamEagle
I don't know that it will and even if it did it would be the outlier city.
Just go look at the ratings (European games routinely smash MLS) and huge sections of empty seats at most MLS games (despite padded attendance MLS reports)
Just go look at the ratings (European games routinely smash MLS) and huge sections of empty seats at most MLS games (despite padded attendance MLS reports)
This post was edited on 4/26/16 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 4/26/16 at 3:50 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Look what a shitty job MLS has done developing the domestic game:
Well the EPL is easier to find on tv and is a far superior product.
The explosion of the EPL in the states the last 10 years has definitively hurt the MLS. Back in the day MLS was pretty much the only soccer you could watch, unless you had a swinging dick sports package.
Posted on 4/26/16 at 4:05 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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it's pretty obvious it's being used mainly as a tax shelter, which means there's a direct incentive for the owners to "lose money" on MLS.
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And there are ten times more in Atlanta who follow soccer in Europe closely yet ignore all domestic leagues. I can't really say I blame them and it will never change as long as the MLS/USSF cartel continues to block access and protect MLS' d1 monopoly.
Do you always think of your opinions as absolute truths?
Posted on 4/26/16 at 4:27 pm to John Keating
You're new here, right?
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