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re: Everton Question For The Whole SB
Posted on 3/1/16 at 5:47 am to mynamebowl
Posted on 3/1/16 at 5:47 am to mynamebowl
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still, they are Spurs.
I thought this was funny but then realized you could replace Spurs with Arsenal and it would be a similarly funny joke, albeit one with more top four finishes.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 8:08 am to John Keating
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When you look at the club and its place beyond just this year, Everton has been a club on a different level from those two. In fact, I would argue that clubs like Southampton and Leicester could have goals of being on the level of an Everton. Because until the past few years, those clubs were not even in the top flight or were scratching to remain in it while Everton was pretty much a lock for the top half of the table.
This.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 8:22 am to Dead End
The question really comes down to whether this new owner is going to pump money into the team or not? I mean, he could run it like a business, in which case maybe he's able to derive additional revenues and gain some competetive ground on the top teams.
Or he could actually dump money into it like a Man City oil sheik, not caring if its ever returend to him.
Those are big big differences.
Billionaire or not, it really comes down to how much they are willing to spend out of their own pocket.
Liverpool has a billionaire ownership group, but they aren't operating at a deficit and funding huge transfers for losses out of their own pocket.
Or he could actually dump money into it like a Man City oil sheik, not caring if its ever returend to him.
Those are big big differences.
Billionaire or not, it really comes down to how much they are willing to spend out of their own pocket.
Liverpool has a billionaire ownership group, but they aren't operating at a deficit and funding huge transfers for losses out of their own pocket.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 8:26 am to Srbtiger06
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This is where I could see Everton. Not an out and out title perennial title contender but a noise maker.
I think you're really underestimating the clubs history, the core of young players, and the new owner.
The new owner, Farhad Moshiri has already said he's going to invest heavily in keeping the young star players and bringing in established talent.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 8:56 am to John Keating
I see this putting Everton ultimately on close to equal footing with Tottenham, a Europa league team consistently with a better shot at champions league every 2-3 years or so. Right now we finish anywhere from 5-12, think this will move the club to 3-8.
Of course pool and Spurs have both now had title challenges the past few years so hopefully Everton gets in position to have an outside shot at that once a decade or so.
Of course pool and Spurs have both now had title challenges the past few years so hopefully Everton gets in position to have an outside shot at that once a decade or so.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 9:02 am to Dead End
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I think you're really underestimating the clubs history, the core of young players, and the new owner.
Don't bother talking history with him, he supports City.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 9:36 am to StraightCashHomey21
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Don't bother talking history with him, he supports City
Lol. True.
I find it odd a City fan doesn't understand what a rich owner can do for a club.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 11:29 pm to John Keating
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IMO Everton is already better than a Southampton or Leicester. Leicester is something of an unknown.
Oh no doubt. I was simply saying they could fill 2015-16 LC's role on a more consistent basis going forward.
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Southampton is a club that has worked to establish itself as a top 10 or so club. Everton has had a couple of off years now but they have usually been a top 10 club for many years. I don't see how Everton is below the level of a Leicester or a Southampton when you look at the club beyond the immediate time and take into account its performance for its recent past.
Not saying Everton is on that level, clearly they're better historically. I was just saying that they could consistently play Southampton/Leicester role. The investment doesn't immediately make them top 4, but they can be like City...with a much more difficult row to hoe. They're obviously, historically speaking, a big club. They will face serious roadbumps on the way to success.
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When you look at the club and its place beyond just this year, Everton has been a club on a different level from those two. In fact, I would argue that clubs like Southampton and Leicester could have goals of being on the level of an Everton. Because until the past few years, those clubs were not even in the top flight or were scratching to remain in it while Everton was pretty much a lock for the top half of the table.
Again, agreed totally. I'm just saying that, due to the current climate in the BPL, they'll face a tough road. Chelsea and City got more money during their takeovers and, on top of that, didn't have to deal with the types of restrictions that Everton will face. I'm not saying they have no history, just saying they'll have a tougher time establishing themselves like Chelsea and MC did.
Posted on 3/1/16 at 11:32 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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Don't bother talking history with him, he supports City.
Have we discussed history here? City have had their rough times. Right now, they're the most talented squad, on paper, in England. We've been shite but now we're good. Doesn't change the fact that Everton isn't a "big 4" club. City isn't either. All I'm saying is that Everton is facing an uphill battle. City did as well...but we had way more money available.
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