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Educational segments/game coverage/analysis
Posted on 6/17/14 at 4:01 pm
Posted on 6/17/14 at 4:01 pm
The pre and post game coverage has been pretty entertaining so far. But with America trying to grow the sport and draw in more casual fans, it seems like there is a big lack of any sort of educational programming and also a lack of any sort of visual analysis of the games.
Even simple things might make the game more approachable for the casual fans. Inside the NBA on TNT does a good job of this when Kenny Smith uses the "big board." Visually breaking down simple plays to give people an idea of what's going on. The pre/post game coverage in football does this a lot too. I've seen none of it so far with the WC coverage.
Also, why couldn't ESPN do some educational segments. Maybe a general one before the WC games started. Go through the basics. Some people don't even know the basic terminology for the game. Explain to people what offsides is, show some examples. Go through some different formations. What does a striker do? What does a midfielder do? What is a foul?
Seems like they could be doing a lot more to help draw interest.
Even simple things might make the game more approachable for the casual fans. Inside the NBA on TNT does a good job of this when Kenny Smith uses the "big board." Visually breaking down simple plays to give people an idea of what's going on. The pre/post game coverage in football does this a lot too. I've seen none of it so far with the WC coverage.
Also, why couldn't ESPN do some educational segments. Maybe a general one before the WC games started. Go through the basics. Some people don't even know the basic terminology for the game. Explain to people what offsides is, show some examples. Go through some different formations. What does a striker do? What does a midfielder do? What is a foul?
Seems like they could be doing a lot more to help draw interest.
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 4:02 pm to Chair
All Alexi Lalas would say are cliches about playing defense and weathering storms and the rest of the guys barely speak enough English to answer yes or no questions.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 4:03 pm to Chair
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But with America trying to grow the sport and draw in more casual fans, it seems like there is a big lack of any sort of educational programming and also a lack of any sort of visual analysis of the games.
FOX tried that a few years ago and it was cringe-worthy.
This post was edited on 6/17/14 at 4:04 pm
Posted on 6/17/14 at 4:34 pm to TN Bhoy
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cringe-worthy
The pre game segment they did with Michael Strahan comparing American football and soccer was embarrassing.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 4:35 pm to TN Bhoy
Oh God. I think I remember that. Was it before the Man U - Barca final at Wembley? Because what I remember was fricking terrible.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 4:37 pm to StiffDewsAreTheWorst
Yup
Posted on 6/17/14 at 4:39 pm to Chair
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offsides
I agree.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 4:40 pm to Chair
ESPN went away from this after mangling the coverage of the 2006 World Cup. Instead, they treat all fans as educated fans, and hope that more casual observers can pick up on the nuances of the game.
Instead of having a baseball commentator Tim McCarver explain why a team is awarded a corner kick during the game, they hired guys like Ian Darke and Derek Rae to narrate the game normally.
Right now, they're doing a tactical preview of the Russia and South Korea game.
The World Cup tonight show has some interesting analysis using modern technology.
I'd recommend just picking up on what the studio guys say about individual players. That way you can pick up on their individual roles within the team.
Instead of having a baseball commentator Tim McCarver explain why a team is awarded a corner kick during the game, they hired guys like Ian Darke and Derek Rae to narrate the game normally.
Right now, they're doing a tactical preview of the Russia and South Korea game.
The World Cup tonight show has some interesting analysis using modern technology.
I'd recommend just picking up on what the studio guys say about individual players. That way you can pick up on their individual roles within the team.
This post was edited on 6/17/14 at 4:43 pm
Posted on 6/17/14 at 11:43 pm to thenry712
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ESPN went away from this after mangling the coverage of the 2006 World Cup. Instead, they treat all fans as educated fans, and hope that more casual observers can pick up on the nuances of the game.
Pretty much all of this. ESPN tried to "teach" the game to the viewers in 98, 02 & 06 and it was awful. With 2010, they revamped it by bringing in top announcers from England and molding their coverage to mirror how games overseas are regularly covered. I think ESPN does a better job than BBC now at presenting a World Cup.
Fox is going to frick up 2018 so bad.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 11:49 pm to Broski
quote:i feel sick just thinking about that
Fox is going to frick up 2018 so bad.
why couldnt it just go to NBC?
This post was edited on 6/17/14 at 11:50 pm
Posted on 6/17/14 at 11:52 pm to Pedro
I thought Fox already fricked up their soccer deal? Weren't they the ones with Gus Johnson calling games?
Posted on 6/17/14 at 11:55 pm to Cap Crunch
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I thought Fox already fricked up their soccer deal? Weren't they the ones with Gus Johnson calling games?
Yep and they won the rights to the 2018 and 2022 World Cup.
If the Gold Cup is any indication, Fox is going to go back to trying to "educate" their viewers on soccer.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:00 am to Chair
Yea to the OP, you'll probably get your wish with fox in 2018 and you'll realize how awful it is. If you treat soccer as a niche, weird, foreign sport that's how people will see it, as a novelty. If you showcase it as the beautiful, passionate, unique game it is and present it to the world using players and analysts who love and know the game you'll gain some true converts
Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:03 am to Broski
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Yep and they won the rights to the 2018 and 2022 World Cup.
That sucks
Does NBC do games? I feel like they do a great job with all of their sports coverage.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:10 am to Cap Crunch
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Does NBC do games? I feel like they do a great job with all of their sports coverage.
They broadcast every English Premier League match. If ESPN was to lose the rights, we all prayed it would be NBC.
Instead, the sports network that is trying to be "cool" got it and they are trying to make Gus Johnson the face of its soccer coverage.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:13 am to Broski
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Instead, the sports network that is trying to be "cool" got it and they are trying to make Gus Johnson the face of its soccer coverage.
You mean we're going to go from Ian Darke to Gus Johnson?
Good god there's only so much of his non-nonsensical screaming I can take
Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:30 am to Chair
The only way I think it could be halfway decent is if they put together some quirky 30 second spots that run throughout the World Cup. It could be similar to those "Rule 3.15" MLB game previews they put out each week. Obviously it is not ideal but it is better than watching Lalas and Twellman awkwardly pushing the buttons on the telestrator screen.
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