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re: Donovan on WC2014: "It's 50-50" That He'll Play

Posted on 10/23/12 at 12:29 pm to
Posted by BobLoblaw
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2011
2324 posts
Posted on 10/23/12 at 12:29 pm to
By your logic, twellman would have been MLS's darling for almost a decade. It's not just about production.
Posted by rsande2
Member since Jan 2006
3423 posts
Posted on 10/23/12 at 12:37 pm to
If we took agoos in 2002 we should take ld in 2014 if he is playing. Agree with not starting him though. Still time for this situation to develop as well....
Posted by thenry712
Zasullia, Ukraine
Member since Nov 2008
15795 posts
Posted on 10/23/12 at 12:49 pm to
Twellman was a great MLS striker...so were Brian Ching, Carlos Ruiz, and Eddie Johnson for a season or two.

Wondo has 60 goals in three MLS seasons (most or tied for the most each year). None of those aforementioned forwards come close to matching that number. DeRosario is probably the best comparison for value to his team, and value to the league.
This post was edited on 10/23/12 at 12:50 pm
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
15251 posts
Posted on 10/23/12 at 1:13 pm to
Hasn't Zusi all but locked up the Donovan role? He is less of a scorer but does well getting in balls from the right side and being a FK specialist.
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 10/23/12 at 2:16 pm to
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Hasn't Zusi all but locked up the Donovan role?


He's done well filling in, but surely we can all agree he's not the difference maker Donovan is/can be. Maybe I'm in the minority, but I still think we're a much lesser team without a healthy, motivated LD, other things equal.
The good thing about him being out lately is that it's forcing other guys to grow. Maybe we'll see what Zusi can do against the likes of Russia, though this might be a camp of Euro-based players. Also seems like Gatt will get called up for that friendly, but I've seen at least one comment that makes me think we won't be that impressed by Gatt.
Posted by thenry712
Zasullia, Ukraine
Member since Nov 2008
15795 posts
Posted on 10/23/12 at 4:04 pm to
Everything I've seen about Gatt is that he's incredibly speedy. Of course, this pace could be judged up against the plodding players of the Norwegian Tippeligaen.

Zusi is very capable of scoring goals, but even better at creating chances. He's got five goals to go along with his MLS leading 14 assists. Look at his game against Chicago a month ago for a dominating performance.

If DC United are out of the playoffs by the November friendly, Chris Pontius could also get a look on the wing for the Russia friendly.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
30135 posts
Posted on 10/23/12 at 4:31 pm to
quote:

As every national team player will tell you, once you are away from the national team it becomes something you miss, and it is tough to imagine Donovan not wanting to still be a part of it all once the Hexagonal begins and the national team starts playing important matches against the likes of Mexico and Honduras. It is the reason he went to Mexico City and played in the August friendly despite not being completely healthy. It’s why he got on a plane and flew from Los Angeles to Miami with an injured knee before the team’s recent qualifying wins against Antigua & Barbuda and Guatemala.

Those were the actions of someone who still cares about the national team, and still wants it to be a part of his life. He can do all the public soul-searching he wants, but those moves were the ones of somebody who we shouldn’t go writing off just yet.

-IVES
Posted by fightingtigers98
Member since Oct 2011
13307 posts
Posted on 10/23/12 at 7:52 pm to
never forget June 23, 2010






he really needs to go to everton, he should have went a long time ago. His stay in MLS hindered his development, and he could have been a much better player if he was at Everton
Posted by americanoutlaw
Lafayette
Member since Jul 2010
4919 posts
Posted on 10/23/12 at 9:06 pm to
We get 23 roster spots, and he gets one if he wants it. Point, blank, period. His mentality has never been the greatest, but it's nothing new. As long as he's even decent and still wants to play, he gets a spot. It's not like you can't make a good roster with 22 players anyway. Cakes can do what he wants in my book.
Posted by NOTORlOUSD
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2010
5051 posts
Posted on 10/23/12 at 9:46 pm to
I think it's "50-50" that he'll be healthy at that point in time. He would have to have a Ronaldinho-level drop in skill to get passed over.
This post was edited on 10/23/12 at 9:47 pm
Posted by matthew25
Member since Jun 2012
9425 posts
Posted on 10/24/12 at 1:35 am to
We moved Claudio to d-mid in his later years. Same for Cakes.
Posted by DB10_AFC
South Louisiana
Member since Jun 2012
7080 posts
Posted on 10/24/12 at 4:20 am to
Posted by rdw1690
Member since Mar 2010
6469 posts
Posted on 10/24/12 at 4:56 pm to
quote:

"I want to take time to have some freedom and not worry about my next game or being fit.

Sounds like a recipe for becoming fat and out of shape.
Posted by LSUgators
Barves,Steelers, NUFC, Gators,LSU
Member since Oct 2008
1202 posts
Posted on 10/25/12 at 10:05 am to
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Ok. Well I guess we should do the same with all of our players, right? Let's not see if their form improves or declines. Let's decide more than a year and a half in advance if they are coming to WC 2014. Stupid.


Forgot I posted in this thread. Just to clarify, I didn't mean wait-and-see how his form is, etc. I was talking about his attitude towards playing. He always seems like he's unsure if he even wants to be there. That's what I think he needs to cut out.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
30135 posts
Posted on 10/25/12 at 10:56 am to
quote:

We moved Claudio to d-mid in his later years. Same for Cakes.

Posted by RonBurgundy
Whale's Vagina(San Diego)
Member since Oct 2005
13302 posts
Posted on 10/25/12 at 4:09 pm to
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He will be on the decline by then. I'm tired of his attitude anyway. Never been a leader and always seemed scared to force his way out of the MLS to the EPL where he could have further improved as a player. He is the total opposite of Dempsey.



Best American player ever.
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