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Do we want a Germany win? Any chance we beat them full squad?
Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:20 pm
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Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:21 pm to Chair
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Do we want a Germany win?
Yes
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Any chance we beat them full squad?
About the same odds we had against Spain in 2009
Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:24 pm to Broski
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quote:Do we want a Germany win? Yes quote:Any chance we beat them full squad? About the same odds we had against Spain in 2009
This, but I don't think this German team is as good as the 2009 Spain.
This post was edited on 6/21/14 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:29 pm to Chair
If we go into the Germany game needing a result we will have one foot out the door already. We want another 4-0 drubbing from Germany so at least we can keep an advantage on goal differential.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:35 pm to Chair
I was thinking about this and wanted the Germans to win... However, we have to get a result tomorrow anyway so why not let us have a shot at winning the group.
I hope Germany loses
ETA I guess that would leave us contending with Ghana also so nevermind, I guess.
I hope Germany loses
ETA I guess that would leave us contending with Ghana also so nevermind, I guess.
This post was edited on 6/21/14 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:36 pm to Chair
We want Germany to obliterate Ghana and also for Germany to get a ton of cards.
We could win, but I am hoping it will not be necessary. If we beat Portugal, then we may only need to not get crushed by Germany (this assumes Germany wins today).
We could win, but I am hoping it will not be necessary. If we beat Portugal, then we may only need to not get crushed by Germany (this assumes Germany wins today).
Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:39 pm to Chair
I've read more than one article saying a draw is the best outcome. Certainly don't want them to lose.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:40 pm to StickyFingaz
I would like our chances of playing a German team that is secure, but playing for top side, than a German team that have to fight for their lives to advance. We have +1 goal difference now, but Germany can score at will if they smell blood.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:42 pm to RATeamWannabe
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I've read more than one article saying a draw is the best outcome. Certainly don't want them to lose.
A draw is only the best outcome if USA wins tomorrow. The only for sure thing is, Ghana can't win. Because if they win, USA could still get knocked out in the group stage with 2 wins.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:43 pm to RATeamWannabe
It depends on your train of thought. If you just want to advance, then Germany should win because it would also eliminate Ghana. If you want to win the group, then you would Ghana to win or draw I guess. I want the US to win the group because I might be at our quarterfinal game then, but above all, I just want to get out of the group.
What is the reason for draw? I am curious.
What is the reason for draw? I am curious.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:43 pm to LurkingTigers
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A draw is only the best outcome if USA wins tomorrow.
#Ibelieve
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What is the reason for draw? I am curious.
Let me find the article
This post was edited on 6/21/14 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:45 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
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What is the reason for draw? I am curious.
A draw, with a United States win tomorrow. USA will for sure advance and just need a tie to top the group against Germany.
This post was edited on 6/21/14 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:45 pm to LurkingTigers
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Germany ties Ghana
In this scenario, a U.S. win over Portugal would put it top of the group after two games and officially clinch a place in the round of 16. A tie against Portugal would put the Americans on the cusp of sealing qualification, too.
A draw also is most ideal because all of these situations revolve around motivation. If both the U.S. and Germany go into a final game knowing that a tie would qualify both teams, then the chances of that happening drastically increase. It doesn't mean the match is fixed. Rather, it is all about risk versus reward.
Say the USA-Germany game is tied with 10 minutes remaining and all either team needs is a tie. Common sense dictates that a safety-first approach is the right way to go. On the other hand, coming up against a team that desperately needs to win to save itself is a different proposition. That team will throw caution to the wind and risk everything in search of a breakthrough.
Conspiracy theorists would point to the fact that Klinsmann and Germany head coach Joachim Loew are friends and former colleagues with the German national team in 2006. Then there is the murky history of the 1982 World Cup where West Germany and Austria conspired to arrange a specific result to ensure Algeria was eliminated and both countries progressed.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:55 pm to Chair
how about we just hope for a USA result tomorrow.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:56 pm to quail man
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how about we just hope for a USA result tomorrow.
Because if Ghana wins, we can win tomorrow and still not advance.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:57 pm to Chair
I hate Germany, for obvious reasons.
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