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Can someone explain why the AFC gets 4 guaranteed teams in the World Cup...

Posted on 3/27/13 at 12:30 am
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 3/27/13 at 12:30 am
and Concacaf only gets 3 guaranteed spots?
Posted by Babychiva
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Posted on 3/27/13 at 12:30 am to
Population???
Posted by Babychiva
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Posted on 3/27/13 at 12:32 am to
Also Australia is now in the league which takes up one the way they have been playing in recent years.
Posted by KosmoCramer
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Posted on 3/27/13 at 12:33 am to
There are 46 AFC and 35 CONCACAF?
Posted by tylercsbn9
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Posted on 3/27/13 at 12:33 am to
I think it use to be three and a 4th would play a South American team. But when Australia moved over I think they changed it as part of the deal I'd guess.

I don't think it's too crazy. I'd say they are on par. Japan, Korea, and the Aussies all tend to field,good teams. They have more nations too.

Te statement about South America bottom feeders competing in concacaf is certainly true as well.
This post was edited on 3/27/13 at 12:41 am
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 3/27/13 at 12:34 am to
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There are 46 AFC and 35 CONCACAF?


Does that really matter in terms of quality though?
Posted by Babychiva
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Posted on 3/27/13 at 12:34 am to
Japan, Korea, Australia, and the best Middle eastern team make a good group
Posted by Babychiva
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Posted on 3/27/13 at 12:35 am to
Why does Concacaf get 4???
Posted by Babychiva
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Posted on 3/27/13 at 12:37 am to
I honestly think the botton 3 teams in S America would compete with the top 3 spots in N America but you want the world to be represented
Posted by cwil177
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Posted on 3/27/13 at 12:37 am to
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Does that really matter in terms of quality though?


Africa has a lot of good teams. Whether they are actually better than CONCACAF though? Meh. We tend do to equally well at the World Cup. Maybe slightly worse.
Posted by tylercsbn9
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Posted on 3/27/13 at 12:38 am to
I know FIFA rankings tend to be crap but AFC has 26, 39, 47, 57, 59....then it drops to the 90s

Concacaf is however much deeper. You don't get to the 90s until,the 12th team and they have 15 and 33

Number of members likely plays a roll.
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 3/27/13 at 12:39 am to
quote:

Africa has a lot of good teams. Whether they are actually better than CONCACAF though? Meh. We tend do to equally well at the World Cup. Maybe slightly worse.


AFC is the Asian confed.
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 3/27/13 at 12:41 am to
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Why does Concacaf get 4???


CONCACAF doesn't get 4 unless the 4th place team beats the OFC champ in the playoff.


Also, you're a joke if you seriously think Venezuela would be top 3 in concacaf.
Posted by tylercsbn9
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Posted on 3/27/13 at 12:43 am to
Venezuela would definitely compete with the Honduras, panama, Costa Rica teams for 3 or 4 in the concacaf table. They've defeated Argentina and Columbia recently in qualifying.
This post was edited on 3/27/13 at 12:46 am
Posted by Babychiva
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Posted on 3/27/13 at 12:44 am to
Honestly we can all agee that Europe has the most teams with a chance to win but FIFA tends to go with depth. That is why South America gets 1/2 the continient is and the ones left out would still be favorites to get out of the group stage. That has been why soccer fans debate on why the euro cup is a harder tournament to win. I think 1st round yes. In the end though yo ure still missing too many elite teams.
Posted by TheIrishFro
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Posted on 3/27/13 at 12:44 am to
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Posted by Broski
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Posted on 3/27/13 at 12:44 am to
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Venezuela would definitely compete with the Honduras, panama, Costa Rica teams for 3 or 4 in the concacaf table.


"Compete" being the operative word here. This guy is acting like they would be a WC lock in concacaf.
Posted by KosmoCramer
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Posted on 3/27/13 at 12:45 am to
FWIW, in the eyes of FIFA, CONCACAF is better:

UEFA/CONMEBOL 1.00 CONCACAF 0.88
AFC/CAF 0.86 OFC 0.85


Those are the multipliers for rankings
Posted by Babychiva
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Posted on 3/27/13 at 12:49 am to
Ok reall lets go play OFC minus Australia, yes Concacaf gets 4... Now lets see if US or Mexico could qualify in S. America with the like of Agentina, Uruguay, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Ecuadorm, Bolivia, and Paraguay...US and Mexico go up against themselves and whatever other 2 teams don't suck at that particular time for 4 spots
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Posted on 3/27/13 at 12:49 am to
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I think it use to be three and a 4th would play a South American team. But when Australia moved over I think they changed it as part of the deal I'd guess.


the Oceanic region was just the Aussie and NZ making it every time. Once Aussie left the Oceanic region lost its auto slow and plays the our 4th place when they used to have aussie get in and their 2nd place NZ would play the South American 5th.
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