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re: Brazil vs. Germany: Match Thread

Posted on 7/8/14 at 5:12 pm to
Posted by betweenthebara
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Posted on 7/8/14 at 5:12 pm to
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I think this is a situation where the beatdown was so bad and began so early that people just accepted it and were lulled into depression fairly easily.



Yeah. Just shocked I imagine. I'm hoping once that shock wears off the anger will come, and flow through them. Liquor will help.
Posted by SpartyGator
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Posted on 7/8/14 at 5:15 pm to
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Just shocked I imagine. I'm hoping once that shock wears off the anger will come, and flow through them. Liquor will help.


Pretty much me after the GSU game only without anger, and a lot more beer
This post was edited on 7/8/14 at 5:16 pm
Posted by bisonduck
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Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 7/8/14 at 5:15 pm to
I had to work through this game and was told Germany was throttling Brazil. I expected to see a 2-0 score line. I just saw the score line and am wondering if the apocalypse is about to commence...

Gulp.

I fear the Germans may not make it out of Brazil.
Posted by Lsut81
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Posted on 7/8/14 at 5:17 pm to
ESPN claiming the rioting isn't taking place because the rain is keeping people inside

Posted by hendersonshands
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Posted on 7/8/14 at 5:20 pm to
On the real though, this was much worse than any American analogy you can think of. Brazil waited what, 64 years? To get the bad taste out of their mouths and they just got held down and forced to lick bear shite.
Posted by bisonduck
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Posted on 7/8/14 at 5:22 pm to
Can someone who watched this game tell me if Germany could've let up. I know they scored 5 in the first half and you can't start dribbling to the corner in the final third and play keep away for 60 minutes but why did they keep scoring?
Posted by hendersonshands
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Posted on 7/8/14 at 5:23 pm to
I only listened to the second half, watched the first, but it sounds like they did try to hold up
Posted by Xenophon
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Posted on 7/8/14 at 5:24 pm to
the only times they even half arse attempted to move the ball forward in the second half, they scored easily. Germany could have had 10 easily if they wanted to.
This post was edited on 7/8/14 at 5:25 pm
Posted by Xenophon
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Posted on 7/8/14 at 5:26 pm to
I'd also like to use this as an example of why you can't just decide you are going to go full on attack against teams that are better than you.
Posted by crazy4lsu
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Posted on 7/8/14 at 5:26 pm to
This might literally change the way Brazil approaches the sport. They just saw what slick passing and pressing do to an opponent. Dunga tried to change the national side but there might need to be a bigger change. The Brazilians love dribbling, but moving the ball quickly and making the correct runs are now important than the ability to dribble through a crowd.

Again, the team with the best DLP seems to be doing well in tournament football. Since Schweinsteiger (and especially Khedira) have come in Germany look so much more fluid in attack. Lahm is not a midfielder, no matter what Pep thinks.

The only change I think they will make is to maybe drop Ozil and play Schurrle from the beginning.
Posted by crazy4lsu
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Posted on 7/8/14 at 5:27 pm to
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Can someone who watched this game tell me if Germany could've let up.


In the second half Germany took what the Brazilians gave them, much like the first half. It's up to the Brazilians to stop them, and they were pretty much disorganized and wayward throughout the game.
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
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Posted on 7/8/14 at 5:27 pm to
They did let up. Didn't really have a choice but to score on the last 2. Brazil pretty much quit playing defense around the 10min mark.
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 7/8/14 at 5:28 pm to
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I only listened to the second half, watched the first, but it sounds like they did try to hold up


Thanks for letting me know. I am feeling more comfortable that the apocalypse isn't starting in Brazil.
Posted by Lsut81
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Posted on 7/8/14 at 5:31 pm to
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Can someone who watched this game tell me if Germany could've let up


Def let up, they didn't push... If it wasn't obscenely wide open, they backed out. The two they did score were kind of "frick it if you're going to give me that much space"
Posted by Xenophon
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Posted on 7/8/14 at 5:34 pm to
I have a feeling this will be similar to tomorrow's game. Not 7-1 obviously, but I could see the Dutch taking apart Argentina.
Posted by DoreonthePlains
Auburn, AL
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 7/8/14 at 5:34 pm to
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The two they did score were kind of "frick it if you're going to give me that much space"


Yep. It would have been a much bigger insult to back off on either goal. Their only option was to literally turn away and backpass from the easy goal or score.
Posted by Nimbus2000
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 7/8/14 at 5:35 pm to
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On the real though, this was much worse than any American analogy you can think of. Brazil waited what, 64 years? To get the bad taste out of their mouths and they just got held down and forced to lick bear shite.



True. I knew some Brazilians in college in 2010. The country's identity is soccer. I don't think I could eve compare it to the 2013 Iron Bowl. It is exponentially worse for them.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
40042 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 5:38 pm to
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I have a feeling this will be similar to tomorrow's game. Not 7-1 obviously, but I could see the Dutch taking apart Argentina.



I have the same feeling. People keep talking about how we should develop an American system of youth development. For me, Germany's play is just further evidence of European dominance. Western Europe is so far ahead of the rest of the world in terms of youth development and tactical instruction that I can easily see more and more countries attempting to copy the Western European model.
Posted by bisonduck
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14006 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 5:43 pm to
The Dutch and Germans are really really different. Argentina is good and pressuring the ball and guys like Gago and Macherano won't let it get lopsided.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 7/8/14 at 5:48 pm to
the closest comparison i know is 1-9-12
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