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re: Arsenal's "Things Are Gonna Change, I Can Feel It! (lol, nope)" Summer Thread
Posted on 4/4/11 at 8:05 pm to Friend of OBUDan
Posted on 4/4/11 at 8:05 pm to Friend of OBUDan
The headlines on Soccernet are always ridiculous. He places most of the blame on the squad. He does have a point of playing on Sunday and not putting pressure on ManU.
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Posted on 4/4/11 at 9:33 pm to glassman
We would have to win a game to put pressure on ManU, and do you really think that would affect them?
Posted on 4/11/11 at 7:20 am to Friend of OBUDan
I wish finals weren't right around the corner, or I'd so be at the Dallas Cup. The side we're bringing is actually quite strong.
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Posted on 4/11/11 at 7:33 am to Friend of OBUDan
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I wish finals weren't right around the corner, or I'd so be at the Dallas Cup. The side we're bringing is actually quite strong.
Is Benik Afobe eligible?
Posted on 4/11/11 at 8:07 am to Friend of OBUDan
Is Daniel Boateng related to Prince and the one that plays for Germany?
Posted on 4/11/11 at 8:26 am to DestrehanTiger
nah, he's just Ghanian, meaning Boateng is as common as Johnson
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Posted on 4/11/11 at 10:38 am to NOTORlOUSD
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Is Benik Afobe eligible?
No. I'm guessing Huddersfield wanted to keep him.
Posted on 4/11/11 at 6:40 pm to Leauxgan
I just had a random and 99% meaningless thought: Do you think the success of the Denver Nuggets after trading Carmelo Anthony to the Knicks will have any influence on whether or not we sell Cesc to Barcelona? Melo had a long, drawn out trade soap opera that ended in him going to the team he wanted to play for. Sure sounds a lot like Cesc/Barca...
Posted on 4/11/11 at 6:47 pm to Friend of OBUDan
Maybe. Getting rid of a player that really wants to be somewhere else could help. Only if we signed a true winger for the left side and someone like Mertsacker in response.
ETA: Or Subotic.
ETA: Or Subotic.
This post was edited on 4/11/11 at 6:53 pm
Posted on 4/11/11 at 7:04 pm to Friend of OBUDan
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I just had a random and 99% meaningless thought: Do you think the success of the Denver Nuggets after trading Carmelo Anthony to the Knicks will have any influence on whether or not we sell Cesc to Barcelona? Melo had a long, drawn out trade soap opera that ended in him going to the team he wanted to play for. Sure sounds a lot like Cesc/Barca...
Cesc is for sure going, but I think there is a significant difference in that we play a lot better with Cesc than we do without him. Part of the reason is that players like Arshavin and Nasri are comfortable giving up the creative burden when Cesc is on the field. When Cesc is injured, our style changes because players that should be on the end of moves, as in VP, Nasri, and Arshavin, want to be the beginning of moves, with the ball at their feet, facing the game head-on.
If we can get a passer of Cesc's quality to replace him, and have someone be the main man in terms of creativity, then it might work. It wouldn't be a situation like it was when Henry left, as the next year we were awesome because we weren't burdened to play it through our star striker. It would be similar to the 2008/2009 drought where we had something like five scoreless games after Cesc was injured in the Liverpool game.
We have no one in the squad who look like immediate replacements. Nasri loves the ball at his feet, and is a typical French No.10. Arshavin moves the ball faster, and would be an ideal second striker if he wasn't so wasteful. Wilshere could be a candidate though. He doesn't quite have the passing range of Cesc, nor the dribbling ability of Nasri, but he has a lovely ability to make space for himself. He has to show the ability to make the final pass, though you can argue he has the vision.Ramsey is also a candidate, though I'll be surprised if he will ever reach his full potential after his injury. His passing range is on Wilshere's level, and he has the flair for the final pass, and a great ability to make space for himself in tight areas.
Hopefully one of the young stud passers that litter our youth team steps up to give us more options.
This post was edited on 4/11/11 at 7:06 pm
Posted on 4/11/11 at 7:17 pm to crazy4lsu
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crazy4lsu
Do you agree that wee need to buy a real left winger and a CB in the summer transfer window?
Posted on 4/11/11 at 7:28 pm to glassman
We need a winger, yes, and I'd love Hazard, so I'd buy him. If Vela can develop next season into a LW then use him. I'd rather stop playing midfielders wide, since they will naturally move centrally. My fear is that Wenger won't want to kill JET, Miyachi, Wellington, Sanchez Watt and Gilles Sunu. JET is the closet to the first team, but who knows what position he will play. So for me, it's either Hazard or promote from the youth team.
As far as CB goes, Kyle Bartley looked really good in his loan spell, so I'd promote him to the first team along with Miquel, who has also looked good. In the long run I think we'll be fine at CB, and I'd only want a truly elite player if we were going to buy someone like Sakho, Subotic, Hummels, Mertesacker, ya know.
I know Wenger won't buy though. He'll promote from the youth team. Lansbury is a better option than Denilson, at least in terms of confidence. We have a lot of players that look like they can be contributors, and I'd rather play them than stick with the likes of Denilson and Squillaci.
I have a feeling that Wenger will jettison a lot of squad players in favor of younger options, which might be a good thing, or a bad thing. Rosicky, Arshavin, Almunia, Bendnter, Denilson, and perhaps Eboue and Diaby all could be let go. Almunia for sure. Arshavin is getting up there in age and I wonder how long we will keep him.
As far as CB goes, Kyle Bartley looked really good in his loan spell, so I'd promote him to the first team along with Miquel, who has also looked good. In the long run I think we'll be fine at CB, and I'd only want a truly elite player if we were going to buy someone like Sakho, Subotic, Hummels, Mertesacker, ya know.
I know Wenger won't buy though. He'll promote from the youth team. Lansbury is a better option than Denilson, at least in terms of confidence. We have a lot of players that look like they can be contributors, and I'd rather play them than stick with the likes of Denilson and Squillaci.
I have a feeling that Wenger will jettison a lot of squad players in favor of younger options, which might be a good thing, or a bad thing. Rosicky, Arshavin, Almunia, Bendnter, Denilson, and perhaps Eboue and Diaby all could be let go. Almunia for sure. Arshavin is getting up there in age and I wonder how long we will keep him.
Posted on 4/11/11 at 7:37 pm to crazy4lsu
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So for me, it's either Hazard or promote from the youth team.
Agreed.
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Miquel,
I like him a lot. Just not sure if he is going to be physically mature enough tp handle the EPL forwards. I love his skill, and he will eventually mature, just not sure if he is ready now. I would play him over Squillachi now, but if we could sign a proven player I would rather that route.
Posted on 4/11/11 at 8:44 pm to glassman
Miquel looked solid for us in the first team, but I always hear mixed reviews of his Reserves performances. Bartley fits more into the traditional EPL CB mold. Maybe he'll get his chance next year.
We do play better with Cesc in the lineup, but that could also be in large part because we switched to the 4-3-3 to maximize his talent. Also, to fit in my Cesc-Melo analogy, the idea would be that we might be better off purchasing 2 or 3 players with the 40-50 mil we get from his sale. (Arshavin is Billups in this analogy, in case anyone was wondering
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I'd love Hazard. All of those guys listed that Wenger might not want to stunt the growth of aren't guys that are likely to be at Arsenal long-term except for Miyachi. I know there are doubts about JET's ability to play at the EPL level. Watt and Sunu seem to be similar cases. Miyachi and Wellington are the brightest (and youngest) talents, but both are at least 2 years away from getting work permits for England. (Not to mention, who knows if Wellington will ever maximize his talent. His loan situation is bad)
LW and CB are huge areas of need. I'd put striker right behind that. Beowulf can't get it together. Chamakh started hot, but he is what he is. RvP is a spectacular talent but always injured. With all the chances we create, it'd be nice to have someone finishing them off.
We do play better with Cesc in the lineup, but that could also be in large part because we switched to the 4-3-3 to maximize his talent. Also, to fit in my Cesc-Melo analogy, the idea would be that we might be better off purchasing 2 or 3 players with the 40-50 mil we get from his sale. (Arshavin is Billups in this analogy, in case anyone was wondering
) I'd love Hazard. All of those guys listed that Wenger might not want to stunt the growth of aren't guys that are likely to be at Arsenal long-term except for Miyachi. I know there are doubts about JET's ability to play at the EPL level. Watt and Sunu seem to be similar cases. Miyachi and Wellington are the brightest (and youngest) talents, but both are at least 2 years away from getting work permits for England. (Not to mention, who knows if Wellington will ever maximize his talent. His loan situation is bad)
LW and CB are huge areas of need. I'd put striker right behind that. Beowulf can't get it together. Chamakh started hot, but he is what he is. RvP is a spectacular talent but always injured. With all the chances we create, it'd be nice to have someone finishing them off.
Posted on 4/12/11 at 8:51 am to glassman
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I would play him over Squillachi now, but if we could sign a proven player I would rather that route.
I'd have to agree. We should be past the stage of relying on 19 year-olds.
Posted on 4/12/11 at 8:57 am to Friend of OBUDan
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I know there are doubts about JET's ability to play at the EPL level.
JET for me is a massive talent. His technique, especially for someone his size, is excellent. The problem is that he looks to be a traditional center forward in the EPL, and he hasn't really played with his back towards goal, meaning he would have to learn. It doesn't mean he wouldn't be successful. Bendnter can't play on the turn to save his life. He still scores. I think JET could possibly do a job on the wing for us because of his technique.
Watt and Sunu look like they could be squad players at best. Both are more traditional wingers than we have currently. There also remains the possibility that Vela could come in at the wing, as he doesn't look like he'll make it at striker here.
Posted on 4/12/11 at 10:41 am to crazy4lsu
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JET for me is a massive talent. His technique, especially for someone his size, is excellent. The problem is that he looks to be a traditional center forward in the EPL, and he hasn't really played with his back towards goal, meaning he would have to learn.
I agree with this, but its kind of why I wonder if he will make it at Arsenal. He's got loads of talent and technique, but no position and is wildly inconsistent. At this point in his career, it seems like its too late for him to learn how to be a CF. He'd have to go down to League 1 or something because no Championship or EPL team can afford to give him PT there consistently. As for playing the wing, he might be able to, but he can't even hold down that position for Cardiff City so I doubt he'll be holding it down for us in the near future.
Young Guns posted an article today about loanees and said Randall, Eastmond, Watt, and Sunu might all be on the way out due to unimpressive loan spells. JET and Vela were mentioned as two who could be loaned out again or sold.
Another thing: How the hell did Randall ever get matches with the first team? I can't help but think that if Merida had gotten his PT he might have stuck around. Not that he's doing that great at Atletico, but still...
This post was edited on 4/12/11 at 10:43 am
Posted on 4/12/11 at 11:12 am to Friend of OBUDan
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At this point in his career, it seems like its too late for him to learn how to be a CF
He's only 20, and he can most definitely learn. He's in a similar position to Jozy when Jozy went on loan to Hull. His best chance at regular playing time would be to a team that just got promoted. He's played well at Cardiff since he's been there, with one goal and three assists. Cardiff have a load of attacking talent in Bellamy, Chopra and Bothroyd who are all PL quality players, so it's no surprise that he can't hold down a place since he doesn't have any natural attacking instincts since he just moved to that position. He might be someone Arsene has to be patient with. I'd rather he not stay at Cardiff if they do get promoted, since Bothroyd has the targetman position sewn up for that team.
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Randall, Eastmond, Watt, and Sunu might all be on the way out due to unimpressive loan spells. JET and Vela were mentioned as two who could be loaned out again or sold.
Randall I think was quite precocious when he first appeared, but his limited physical ability and lack of confidence have hampered him. He'll be a good lower-tier player at best.
Eastmond will probably be sold and be a lower-tier player.
Watt is interesting because he seems to be getting playing time. Maybe a PL loan next year.
Sunu doesn't look like he'll make it either.
I'm really excited to see what happens with Aneke and Ozyakup.
Do you know who are top U-16 prospects are? I'm seeing Jack Jebb's name a lot.
Posted on 4/15/11 at 1:16 pm to Leauxgan
Yeah, that's terrible. The white kit going around earlier was much nicer.
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