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re: Arsenal Football Club 2011-2012 Season Thread
Posted on 8/31/11 at 10:39 pm to adammwilson
Posted on 8/31/11 at 10:39 pm to adammwilson
I would imagine a positive one. He'll likely start at DLP and allow Wilshere to play further up the pitch. Upgrade over Rosicky for sure and probably Ramsey too at the present.
Posted on 8/31/11 at 10:53 pm to Friend of OBUDan
Last thought. We are not as talented of a team as we were last year, no doubt in my mind. HOWEVER, I think this should be a grittier, more experienced, and better defensive team which are all things we have been crying out for. Even Fabregas, God knows how much I love him and wish he was still here, did some pretty screwy things from time to time (see: Backheel around our own box against Barcelona). When the vast majority of the team is healthy (Inshallah), we should be a pretty competitive team this season.
And maybe Wenger has figured out you can have veteran players without "killing" the young ones careers.
And maybe Wenger has figured out you can have veteran players without "killing" the young ones careers.
This post was edited on 8/31/11 at 10:59 pm
Posted on 8/31/11 at 10:58 pm to NOSA
The biggest difference between this year and last year is the CB pairings. A healthy RVP for the whol year would be nice too.
Posted on 8/31/11 at 11:55 pm to NOSA
I'd rather have all these guys AND Cesc, but alas...
Is it just me or is Cesc tweeting more about Arsenal now than he ever did when he was an Arsenal player?
He doesn't think we need to replace him because we already have Jackie boy.
Is it just me or is Cesc tweeting more about Arsenal now than he ever did when he was an Arsenal player?
Posted on 8/31/11 at 11:59 pm to NOSA
If healthy we are a better team than ladt year. Fabregas was good, but i recall beating man u without him only to falter later with him. His heart wasnt in arsenal at the end. He was one of the main readons we lost steam. Im glad we got rid of him.
I liked having rvp behind chamakh with nasri, theo or arshavin on the eing. Them jack and song behind rvp.
I liked having rvp behind chamakh with nasri, theo or arshavin on the eing. Them jack and song behind rvp.
This post was edited on 9/1/11 at 12:03 am
Posted on 9/1/11 at 12:00 am to Friend of OBUDan
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Is it just me or is Cesc tweeting more about Arsenal now than he ever did when he was an Arsenal player? He doesn't think we need to replace him because we already have Jackie boy.
Funny how he was still using "we."
Posted on 9/1/11 at 12:11 am to LSUSOBEAST1
His love for Arsenal has been seriously underrated throughout this whole saga. Sure, Barca is where he grew up, but the whole thing was more about trophies than anything else. If he had grown up in Bilbao's set-up, he wouldn't have had the urge to return there. I don't think Cesc ever gave up on us or lost the desire to play for us.
Posted on 9/1/11 at 12:44 am to Friend of OBUDan
I was just thinking he wasnt playing at a level like the other barca players were. That could be because of no trophies though. Near the end of season he wasnt. Thats why i just figure we get it over wit. Now if we didnt get any players i would have been pissed. But we need defense even with vermaelan back. We needed it bad with or without fabregas. I mean we will still score goals, but it was obvious against pool and man u we neded a cb.
I think midfield will be fine. But these guys cant get suspended. We need song , gerv, and frimprong. Frim is young, but i love his inensity. And jack and ramsey should only get better.
I think midfield will be fine. But these guys cant get suspended. We need song , gerv, and frimprong. Frim is young, but i love his inensity. And jack and ramsey should only get better.
This post was edited on 9/1/11 at 12:48 am
Posted on 9/1/11 at 2:39 am to dgnx6
Watching sky sports, said wenger had a list of 20 names. Any one know the 20? With arteta deal late, how far down the list was he?
Also saw this on wiki anout mertesacker.
Also saw this on wiki anout mertesacker.
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At the World Cup 2006 on home soil, Mertesacker paired with Metzelder in central defence. After Germany won the quarter-final penalty shoot-out against Argentina, Mertesacker was attacked by Argentine Leandro Cufré, an unused substitute. He suffered minor injuries to his thigh and a kick to the groin. After Germany's loss to Italy in the semifinals, Mertesacker had surgery on one of his legs and left testicle (not related to the attack above, but an injury he had been dealing with during previous matches) and missed the third place play-off.
This post was edited on 9/1/11 at 3:11 am
Posted on 9/1/11 at 8:50 am to Friend of OBUDan
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His love for Arsenal has been seriously underrated throughout this whole saga. Sure, Barca is where he grew up, but the whole thing was more about trophies than anything else. If he had grown up in Bilbao's set-up, he wouldn't have had the urge to return there. I don't think Cesc ever gave up on us or lost the desire to play for us.
I'm absolutely sure that it has everything to do with Pep. Pep was his idol, but Wenger made him (and Nasri for that matter) the players they are today.
Posted on 9/1/11 at 8:52 am to crazy4lsu
There may be a slight genetic worry for Arteta
Posted on 9/1/11 at 8:52 am to dgnx6
A couple days late, but I thought Coquelin was surprisingly good against United.
Posted on 9/1/11 at 8:55 am to NOSA
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I think this should be a grittier, more experienced, and better defensive team which are all things we have been crying out for.
I hope so, but I saw some positives during the Udinese game. We are actually playing better as a team when not trying to play through Fabregas. Nasri was a bad fit centrally because he held onto the ball far too much. Now we are passing and moving, but our play isn't as expansive as it was with Fabregas.
We have to focus on the short passing game more than ever. Our chances will be created wide, probably on the left side. I'd love for us to let VP play behind Theo, and let Theo attack from all sorts of positions on the field. Our front three against Udinese was so fluid that it made it difficult for Udinese to deal with it. If we can get that kind of dynamic movement, we can rely on our midfield to supply balls rather than run into the box to try to score, which will improve our defensive balance. Hopefully.
Posted on 9/1/11 at 9:00 am to Stewie Griffin
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A couple days late, but I thought Coquelin was surprisingly good against United.
Yeah we all noticed that. He basically played the same role that Song played in the 1-0 win at the Emirates last year. He marked Rooney closely, and tried to deny him the ball. It's good to note that Rooney's hatrick came from set plays. Coquelin is a tidier player than Frimpong, but I see them as massive talents. It's good that they are staying, as they can play in the Carling Cup and get valuable experience.
Posted on 9/1/11 at 9:30 am to crazy4lsu
Looking at the roster, this is the first time in quite a while that we don't have a truly elite player, like top ten or fifteen in the world. Van Persie is very good, but I'm not sure he's one of the top fifteen players in the world right now. We'll have to be more of a team than ever before.
Posted on 9/1/11 at 9:37 am to crazy4lsu
yeah, we're going to have to play like Everton and punch above our weight for sure.
Posted on 9/1/11 at 9:40 am to Leauxgan
The more I think about this team at full strength, the more confident I become that we will at least finish top 5 by the end of the season. I know that's not guaranteed CL football, but before our additions and added depth, I was worried that a couple serious injury blows could see us finishing around 10th or worse. Now I don't have that shaky feeling.
Posted on 9/1/11 at 9:41 am to Leauxgan
I WILL NOT stand for this bullshite though...
Posted on 9/1/11 at 9:46 am to Leauxgan
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yeah, we're going to have to play like Everton and punch above our weight for sure.
It's actually a really solid squad with good depth everywhere. Wenger has to be more tactically flexible. He's a brilliant tactician, but he often is stubborn. We need to take advantage of Theo and Gervinho's pace at the wings and really use it. That might involve playing a deeper line, and inviting teams to attack more. The compact system we have doesn't really seem to work very well, especially when we don't press consistently. It might involve playing VP in a withdrawn role, but telling him to work between the lines rather than coming past the second defensive line to receive the ball. It might involve counter-attacking. It really annoys me when players like Nasri and Adebayor leave because they would be perfect for the system we are trying to play without Cesc. Adebayor, if he stayed, could have been elite. Nasri as a winger is better than Nasri as a AM.
We also need to redo our wage strucutre. I hope to frick Stan realizes that his investment will fall by the wayside if he doesn't put some money into it. If he buys off our stadium debt, and allows us to use the gate receipts for transfers, we can still be competitive. He just needs to do something, which I'm afraid he won't do.
Posted on 9/1/11 at 9:48 am to Leauxgan
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yeah, we're going to have to play like Everton and punch above our weight for sure.
To be fair, we've been punching above our weight for quite a while. We're the Everton of the big European clubs. We've been basically top four with a bunch of young twenty-somethings.
I guess with Cesc left, the youth movement has failed in a way. But also it didn't. We are in a fairly strong financial position, though we can't compete with Man City. Throughout that time when we had boardroom drama and the large specter of debt, we were top four. Had we stayed in Highbury, we would have definitely regressed much worse.
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