All English games to start 7 mins late tomorrow and through Monday

So that's why people posting pictures of Fulham match tickets had a start time of 15.07

#respek

Some people can't handle the truth. Guy, whoever he is, should have been smart enough to realize that though.

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Some people can't handle the truth.

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I'm convinced you live in some backwoods trailer with a closet of wife beaters and rotting teeth from a life full of Grizzly long cut.

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what did his mate nick think of that?

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Nick didn't give a shite, he was starting that Poker show, and was? part of that poker magazine. That show was interfering with his poker time.

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I'm actually starting to think you believe the ridiculous things you say.

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Never has there been a more glaring example of pot meet kettle.

Still waiting.....

I'm sure I'll always be waiting. Same story different day. You really should've been a United fan. You fit that American United fan stereotype perfectly.

Actually, I feel bad saying even that. War, PT, and StraightCash don't deserve that comparison.

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For what?

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You to explain to me why our heads are in the sand. As always, conclusory statements with no support. Did you read the report? Are you saying that there's a government conspiracy where spoliated evidence was planted by parliament to appease LFC?

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If hundreds of people, even if they were completely unaware of the situation they were creating, aren't trying to force their way into a place that could not support them the tragedy never happens.

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Have you ever been to a real soccer stadium in England? Not the Bridge, I'm talking about an old, small, classic stadium. The gates are tiny. A man can barely fit himself through, much less see inside to understand how crowded the concourse is. No one knew the stadium was full. No one knew the FA set them up in a shite hole of a ground that couldn't hold the amount of people that had been sold tickets for it. No one knew that the design of such stadium was basically a death trap for those who walked out on the terraces because there was no exit other than the entrance they came through.

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No one knew the FA set them up in a shite hole of a ground that couldn't hold the amount of people that had been sold tickets for it. No one knew that the design of such stadium was basically a death trap for those who walked out on the terraces because there was no exit other than the entrance they came through.

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How did no one know? They have played several FA semis and q'final games at the grounds. And there had been other near tragedies at the same grounds, as fans pushed through the gates.

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Hillsborough was a regular venue for FA Cup semi-finals in the 1980s, hosting five matches. A crush occurred at the Leppings Lane end of the ground during the 1981 semi-final between Tottenham Hotspur and Wolverhampton Wanderers after hundreds more spectators were permitted to enter the terrace than could safely be accommodated, resulting in 38 injuries, including broken arms, legs and ribs.[15] Police believed there had been a real chance of fatalities had swift action not been taken, and recommended the club reduce its capacity. In a post-match briefing to discuss the incident, Sheffield Wednesday chairman Bert McGee remarked: "Bollocks—no one would have been killed".[16][17] This incident prompted Sheffield Wednesday to alter the layout at the Leppings Lane end, dividing the terrace into three separate pens to restrict sideways movement. The terrace was divided into five pens when the club was promoted to the First Division in 1984, and a crush barrier near the access tunnel was removed in 1986 to improve the flow of fans entering and exiting the central enclosure. Its capacity remained unaltered and the safety certificate was not updated. After the crush in 1981, Hillsborough was not chosen to host an FA Cup semi-final for six years until 1987. Serious overcrowding was observed at the 1987 quarter-final between Sheffield Wednesday and Coventry City[18] and again during the semi-final between Coventry City and Leeds United at Hillsborough.[19] A Leeds fan described disorganisation at the turnstiles and no steward or police direction inside the stadium, resulting in the crowd in one enclosure becoming so compressed he was at times unable to raise and clap his hands. Other accounts told of fans having to be pulled to safety from above. Liverpool and Nottingham Forest met in the semi-final at Hillsborough in 1988, and fans reported crushing at the Leppings Lane end. Liverpool lodged a complaint before the match in 1989. One supporter wrote to the Football Association and Minister for Sport complaining, "The whole area was packed solid to the point where it was impossible to move and where I, and others around me, felt considerable concern for personal safety".[20] After changes to the ground's layout in 1981, its safety certificate became invalid but was not renewed. At the time of the disaster, the ground had no safety certificate

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I said the same in my post. Nobody meant for anyone to die. It wasn't some act of malice on either side.

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So if Liverpool fans thought the stadium had room then they shouldn't be blamed for entering a full stadium.

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Thousands of games had been played in that stadium and others similar to it without an incident like this occurring.

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Jesus. Thousands of games before it weren't the FA semi final. Thousands before it weren't being attended by supporters who knew nothing about the ground. Thousands before it sold the correct amount of tickets. Thousands before it actually had police directing people. Thousands before it didn't open exit gates marked with entrance signs which lead straight into already overcrowded areas. Thousands before didn't allocate the significantly larger fan base the significantly smaller support section. Thousands of matches before were delayed when the EXACT SAME situation occurred, as opposed to this one where the request was ignored by the police.

Seriously, you should actually read something next time before posting.