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re: Zelensky says Trump lives in ‘disinformation space’

Posted on 2/19/25 at 1:47 pm to
Posted by Asharad
Tiamat
Member since Dec 2010
6307 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 1:47 pm to
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I hate the entire idea of supporting this thing but when we are negotiating with one side
There are 2 sides of this war.
1. Russia
2. USA
Ukraine is just a proxy. The sooner you understand this, the sooner you will realize that American foreign policy is 50% root cause of this war.
This post was edited on 2/19/25 at 1:49 pm
Posted by Asharad
Tiamat
Member since Dec 2010
6307 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 1:52 pm to
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I wish there was a way to punish both sides
You wish to punish the USA?
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
75480 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 1:54 pm to
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a day after the US president falsely accused


Dear God in heaven, I hate when fake news does this.

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where Trump amplified the false conspiracy theory


Absolutely drives me up a wall.
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
23231 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 2:35 pm to
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Why? I don't support them. Why don't you pick up a gun and support daddy Russia land grab to their hearts content.


I’ve already picked up a gun in service of the United States. I doubt you’ll sacrifice anything for the USA, keyboard warrior
Posted by RelicBatches86
Florida
Member since Nov 2024
1084 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 3:03 pm to
The war needs to end as soon as possible, I agree with that. Ukraine has no path to victory or forcing Russia's full withdrawal.

-Ukraine wants a security guarantee from future Russia attacks

-Russia wants west Ukraine land

my idea:
- Russia keeps their occupied land in Ukraine .
- accept Ukraine in NATO (even though they dont qualify to either)

- install NATO and US defense systems in Ukraine

- if Russia refuses, impose Vance's ideas of sanctions
- if ukraine refuses, withdraw US funding

some may call this a globalist solution but I disagree.

What's Russia's counter-offer? "We keep the lands we occupy, you refuse NATO, we pinkie-promise to not invade again"




Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
120228 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 3:04 pm to
Ukraine is a third world welfare recipient at this point. They are not our “friend”
Posted by DefCon1
Member since Dec 2017
785 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 3:07 pm to
If Zelensky keeps running his mouth he will be living in a space called Russia.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
51121 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 3:08 pm to
I really wish an announcement would come out stating that all U.S. funding to Ukraine is suspended. I know it’s not as simple as flipping a switch, but I wish it could be. I’m tired of this little war-hungry pissant who walks around dressed like he just flew in from battlefield HQ. We have no obligation to fund Ukraine’s war.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162989 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 3:34 pm to
Trump is goading this fricker's true colors out.

He is starting to sound like a democrat or an establishment R neocon.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135804 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 3:42 pm to
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Zelensky says Trump lives in ‘disinformation space’


Posted by Asharad
Tiamat
Member since Dec 2010
6307 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 4:22 pm to
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- install NATO and US defense systems in Ukraine


This isn't a solution, it's a causal factor for the war.
Posted by Stonehenge
Wakulla Springs
Member since Dec 2014
2605 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 5:41 pm to
He’s not wrong. Also a lot of dementia and hate and greed thrown in
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