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re: “Zelensky rules out ceding territory to Russia, refuses to bend to Putin or Trump”. - WaPo

Posted on 12/9/25 at 10:13 am to
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
21333 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 10:13 am to
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Russia steadily gaining ground in Ukraine after 4 years of war

I doubt that was their timeline coming into it?


Your a fool is you think Russia couldn't have already taken Ukraine if that was the goal.
As I stated, the longer this goes, the more lives and land Ukraine loses. Zylinski is an idiot who sold his soul yo globalist.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
84409 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 10:14 am to
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But some of you will deny it and hold onto your anti-Zelensky narrative because you think it makes it easier to concede to Putin(he's playing everyone like a fiddle, btw)
How about they both suck.

How about the win is if they both bleed to frick out?
Posted by Areddishfish
The Wild West
Member since Oct 2015
6448 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 10:16 am to
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Hard for me to stomach American aid going to someone actively working against our interests.


At the same time though, for a simple cash investment, he is using Ukrainian bodies to weaken down Russian military might, so it isn't completely wasted.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
9454 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 10:20 am to
Then cool. He can continue the war without us. He'll wind up ceding MUCH more territory, and Ukranian lives, to Putin then.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
74105 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 10:21 am to
Z has never said anything else. Ever. He extends the hope while campaigning for more resources. Rinse. Repeat. Sell them arms and give them free Intel. Wait for tomorrow.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
9454 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 10:23 am to
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Grifter is making too much money in war time. I’d love to know who is actually pulling this douchers strings.


The U.S. treasonous Deep State, MIC, NGOIC, and Intell elites that have worked to steal elections, facilitated assassination attempts, and the ones that control uniparty establishment politicians and the mainstream media propaganda aparatus.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
19217 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 10:27 am to
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“Zelensky rules out ceding territory to Russia, refuses to bend to Putin or Trump”. - WaPo
cool. Just quit taking our money and adding to our already embarrassing deficit spending.

In X number of years Ukraine will lose and be conquered OR be in such an economic, demographic, and political mess Russia won't need or want to take Kiev and will just subsume them as a client state once again.

In other words, without us (and the EU) basically Marshall Plann(ing) them until they can rebuild their manpower (+20 years) they have already lost. Geography and occupied land, while still important, are now secondary concerns.
This post was edited on 12/9/25 at 10:28 am
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
9454 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 10:27 am to
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The only question remains - how much of our money is our Govt going to spend on this war?


The real question is WHO in the U.S. and the U.S. government, Intell agencies, the Pentagon etc. is making money off this war. They're the ones pulling the Z's strings.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
9454 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 10:28 am to


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Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
37098 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 10:29 am to
We are long past cutting this guy off and let the chips fall where they may.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
9454 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 10:29 am to
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So much for all those Mission Accomplished banners tCult was waving around a few weeks ago.


You got OMB and tCult now!!!! Good job, buddy. Congrats.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
76928 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 10:30 am to
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
9454 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 10:31 am to
quote:

quote:
They found Zelensky involved in massive fraud


Not exactly. They found fraud with a part of the government and rooted it out.
That's how a democratic government is supposed to work.

But some of you will deny it and hold onto your anti-Zelensky narrative because you think it makes it easier to concede to Putin(he's playing everyone like a fiddle, btw)



Keep watching MSNBC, nerd.
Posted by Django Unchained
Member since Sep 2025
408 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 10:50 am to
I find no fault in your statement!
Posted by Stat M Repairman
Member since Jun 2023
1095 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 11:27 am to
It's 2025 and there's trench-warfare ongoing in Europe.
Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
14232 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 11:38 am to
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Your a fool is you think Russia couldn't have already taken Ukraine if that was the goal.


So instead they have been grinding it out in Eastern Ukraine for over 3 years enduring high causalties

Do you not recall Russian tanks entered Kyiv in the early days of the war and were pushed out?
Posted by Gator5220
Member since Aug 2010
4766 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 11:42 am to
Just completely pull out of this and wish both sides best of luck.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53741 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 11:42 am to
The Illegitimate Jotato Regime attempted to play a game of global chess with Russia and was checkmated in less than 18 months.....Russia had won the Ukraine/Russia war before it even started because they understood the weakness and incompetence of the Jotato Regime.


Trump should wash his hands of the European continent and while he's at it announce his desire to pull the US from NATO membership.

Prior to 2023 a US president could have attempted to renounce NATO membership, in 2023 Congress passed a guardrail piece of legislation to restrict the president's ability to renounce NATO membership......the Rs controlled the House when that legislation was passed......hmmm.
Posted by Shamoan
Member since Feb 2019
13160 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 11:44 am to
if you are russia, say try to take it back or we will take more, otherwise, sign the deal.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
62644 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 11:44 am to
The United States needs to completely wash their hands of anything dealing with Ukraine. It’s Europe’s problem.
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