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re: Zelensky *NOW* proposes a ceasefire

Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:41 pm to
Posted by Miketheseventh
Member since Dec 2017
7026 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:41 pm to
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Russia will nail them hard now.

It sucks for the Ukrainian people but another example of elections have consequences. They should have never elected a dick playing piano player
Posted by BluegrassCardinal
Kentucky
Member since Nov 2022
2131 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:44 pm to
The UK has a serious manpower issue as far as the Army goes. France hasn’t performed well military since God knows when.

Nobody in NATO is going to strike Russia preemptively. It would turn into a horrible conventional war that could easily segue into tactical nuke use if one side gets their back to the wall.
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 9:04 pm to
NATO minus the US would still be far more than Russia can handle, in conventional warfare or a nuclear exchange.

The EU knows that they’ll have to go it alone now that the US is retreating from the world stage.
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 9:10 pm to
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Was pretty stupid to attack those airplanes. Forcing Russia's hand.


What’s Russia going to do, launch another all-out attack? Their “Zeus Lightening” all-out attack operation was scheduled for the evening of June 1st but Ukraine’s SBU hit four airbases and destroyed 41 bombers that were going to be used in the attack.
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 9:12 pm to
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It sucks for the Ukrainian people but another example of elections have consequences. They should have never elected a dick playing piano player


The alternative was a Putin puppet like the one in Belarus.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
35845 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 9:15 pm to
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Their “Zeus Lightening” all-out attack operation was scheduled for the evening of June 1st but Ukraine’s SBU hit four airbases and destroyed 41 bombers that were going to be used in the attack.


Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
10913 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 9:24 pm to
Z does a perfect imitation of Mr Bean in that classic movie "Love Actually
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Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 9:43 pm to
Nope. I want him to hit them two more times wipe out all the planes that can carry Nukes and take up rest of their armour and another 500k soldiers.

Then they are done and we didn’t fire a fricking shot, then it’s on to China
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
19890 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:15 am to
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The alternative was a Putin puppet like the one in Belarus.


Uh, mmm, actually the alternative is they cease to exist as a "sovereign" country.

As if they were anything other than a puppet state of the west the last decade
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 9:12 am to
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As if they were anything other than a puppet state of the west the last decade


Which is better than being part of Russia.
Posted by tigerfan 64
in the LP
Member since Sep 2016
6413 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 9:16 am to
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just a bunch of AI propaganda

The video / pictures of the damaged aircraft definitely were fake.
Posted by Chingon Ag
Member since Nov 2018
4111 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 9:21 am to
The Putin apologists are twisting reality in trying to make Zelensky the bad guy. Most rational people aren’t buying it, though.

The rational folks know that both of these guys shoulder the blame. This isn’t an either or situation.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
39560 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 9:27 am to
Zelensky is going to get a ‘fire’ but not the “cease “ kind he hopes for. He pulled a Hamas/Oct. 7 level strike by hitting nuclear targets which were necessarily exposed due to international arms treaties. It’s gloves off and payback will be a bitch. Ask Hamas, Hezbollah and the Houthis.
Posted by IamNotaRobot
OKC
Member since Nov 2021
1784 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 9:30 am to
Ukraine doesn’t want the war to end because they get free money and knows that not matter how bad things get the West is going to pay for them to rebuild. New infrastructure, new hospitals, new condos and summer homes to spend their US tax dollars on. They can even import new citizens and pay them too with same monies. Besides slaughtering the male population there really is no downside to continuing the conflict.
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