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re: Zelensky is "very honorable"

Posted on 7/16/23 at 3:56 pm to
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
23608 posts
Posted on 7/16/23 at 3:56 pm to
quote:

It's laughable that any Trump supporter would bring up honesty


You don't know anything about me, not my name, color, age, occupation, absolutely nothing yet you question my honesty.
Your not here to trade opinions, ideas, nor thoughts. Your here hiding behind your computer screen attempting to ease your fragile ego and convince yourself you're a smart person. You win. Your the smartest knife in the drawer!
Does that feel better? Enjoy your evening.
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
9405 posts
Posted on 7/16/23 at 4:05 pm to
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The context is his plan is to threaten Putin by escalating the support for Ukraine. It's actually not a terrible strategy and I'm no Trump apologist.




It's a terrible strategy on multiple levels.

1. It runs in contrast to what Trump has been saying so he is showing it is a bluff.

2. If he follows through on it it will require him to get in deep with the Deep State that will use and abuse him AGAIN. Lindsey will love it though.

3. The fundamental problem is it gets away from the strategic vision Trump has been laying out which is that we have no business in Ukraine and if it is Putin or Zelensky that controls a little bit of land. He needs to be pressuring NATO to decide if they want to play and play on their own dime but we are out.

4. There is no "win" in Ukraine beyond the fact it has already exposed Russia is not a real threat to conventionally attack Western Europe. This puts Trump in the middle of everything and he will lose because Putin will want something in return and giving him ANYTHING will be seen as a defeat. The only winning move is to say "Yeah, you guys go figure that stuff out on your own. As long as you aren't involving US interests we just don't care. If you want our help negotiating that's great but you need to find a peace deal cause we are out." That's basically DeSantis' position.

Defend this all you want but this was a major mistake by Trump. He doesn't talk tactics for a reason and he just couldn't help himself here. Now he gets to defend his "peace or we double down" strategy. Good luck with that.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
55641 posts
Posted on 7/16/23 at 4:10 pm to
Trump’s not praising Zeelenskeee enough….he’s a modern day Churchill.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
19899 posts
Posted on 7/16/23 at 4:10 pm to
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quote:
He also said if Russia didn't agree to a cease fire he would double down on the Ukraine war assistance.


Repeating for the cultists trying to ignore this.


And we found one of those that cant read at the 3rd grade level on the standardized tests.


You are so ignorant you actually included the part you should have left out of the quote: If Russia did not agree

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
42045 posts
Posted on 7/16/23 at 4:12 pm to
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You are so ignorant you actually included the part you should have left out of the quote: If Russia did not agree



So what happens next if Russia doesn't agree?
Posted by Message Board User
Member since Dec 2006
6956 posts
Posted on 7/16/23 at 4:13 pm to


So Trump's strategy is to tell Putin to stop or we'll arm Ukraine to the teeth.

How is this any different than what we're doing?

Where are all the Trumptards who claim it's so important for us to stay out of these conflicts?
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
22999 posts
Posted on 7/16/23 at 4:13 pm to
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You are so ignorant you actually included the part you should have left out of the quote: If Russia did not agree

How is that different from what we are doing now?
Posted by Zarkinletch416
Deep in the Heart of Texas
Member since Jan 2020
8689 posts
Posted on 7/16/23 at 4:16 pm to
It is a hard hearted man, when forced to watch men, women, children, babies and fragile elderly bombed and shot to death, does NOT expend everything in defense of his people.

War is hell. War has become so violent and destructive some argue that under no circumstances is war justifiable. Given the horrible video and images coming out of Ukraine, I'm inclined to agree. Remember, parked next door to Ukraine in Belarus are those Russian nukes.

What is etched in my mind? That mom and her two precious little girls clutching their stuffed dolls lying dead on a street corner. Victims of shrapnel from a Russian artillery shell. Their father found out about their death from a CNN Report.

I know I'm naive, but I can't help but wonder if humankind could just find the courage to gather all the expenditures for armament and weapons in the world and create a fund to eradicate poverty and homelessness. Maybe then the world would not need war. Maybe if they just, collectively, asked the God of Abraham and His son Jesus Christ to help mankind do this, who knows what would happen?

I believe in miracles. Big ones too.

Pray for Peace in Ukraine. Pray for the children of Ukraine.


This post was edited on 7/17/23 at 9:35 am
Posted by Message Board User
Member since Dec 2006
6956 posts
Posted on 7/16/23 at 4:17 pm to
No wonder Trump is butt buddies with Lindsey Graham.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
40295 posts
Posted on 7/16/23 at 4:17 pm to
So that’s Trump’s big plan? If Russia doesn’t agree he’ll just accelerate the war?

This is the shite the cultists have been bragging about for weeks?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59262 posts
Posted on 7/16/23 at 4:18 pm to
I don’t agree with trump. Which is why it’s hilarious when y’all call trump fans cultists. Y’all are the ones that are in lock step with your preferred candidate. I cannot imagine feeling like you have to agree 100 percent with any politician. Seems simple minded.
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
9405 posts
Posted on 7/16/23 at 4:21 pm to
So you don't agree with Trump but you support him and you think people that vote for a guy who has policies they do agree with are "simple minded". Interesting logic.
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
42045 posts
Posted on 7/16/23 at 4:26 pm to
quote:

There is no "win" in Ukraine beyond the fact it has already exposed Russia is not a real threat to conventionally attack Western Europe. This puts Trump in the middle of everything and he will lose because Putin will want something in return and giving him ANYTHING will be seen as a defeat. The only winning move is to say "Yeah, you guys go figure that stuff out on your own. As long as you aren't involving US interests we just don't care. If you want our help negotiating that's great but you need to find a peace deal cause we are out." That's basically DeSantis' position.



These Cult 45 clowns called DeSantis a Establishment, Neo-con and soft because he stated he didn't want to paint himself in a box about what he might do about Ukraine simply because its as too volatile a situation and anything could happen between now and January 2025. Yet Trump has done exactly that and committed us to further escalation in this conflict.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
46803 posts
Posted on 7/16/23 at 4:35 pm to

Is it OK for me to no comment on this at all?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59262 posts
Posted on 7/16/23 at 4:41 pm to
quote:

So you don't agree with Trump but you support him and you think people that vote for a guy who has policies they do agree with are "simple minded". Interesting logic.


That is correct. On this issue I don’t agree with trump. Only a cultist would be in 100 percent agreement with a politician on all issues. You’re here doubling down on that. Interesting logic.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 7/16/23 at 5:01 pm to
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So Trump's strategy is to tell Putin to stop or we'll arm Ukraine to the teeth.

How is this any different than what we're doing?

Where are all the Trumptards who claim it's so important for us to stay out of these conflicts?



They don't like being called fricking idiots so to combat that they slam their dick in the door again.

Cementheads.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173381 posts
Posted on 7/16/23 at 5:05 pm to
quote:

You don't know anything about me, not my name, color, age, occupation, absolutely nothing yet you question my honesty.
Your not here to trade opinions, ideas, nor thoughts. Your here hiding behind your computer screen attempting to ease your fragile ego and convince yourself you're a smart person. You win. Your the smartest knife in the drawer!
Does that feel better? Enjoy your evening.

Too much unintentional hilarity in one post
Posted by Message Board User
Member since Dec 2006
6956 posts
Posted on 7/16/23 at 5:13 pm to
quote:

I don’t agree with trump. Which is why it’s hilarious when y’all call trump fans cultists.


This is more evidence that it's a cult and why I've always said that if Trump came out in support of DEI and CRT all you Cult45ists would be buying Woke Baby and celebrating Ibram Kendhi's entire catalog tomorrow.

You know Trump will escalate the war, yet you support him.

You know he's pro-choice, yet you support him.

You know he's not going to fight the culture wars, yet you support him.

You know he's not going to balance the budget, yet you support him.

You know he's not going to drain the swamp, lock her up, or build the wall, yet you support him.

You know he's going to hire the worst people, yet you support him.

You know Desantis has a better chance of winning the general, yet you support him.

Sounds exactly like a cult to me.
This post was edited on 7/16/23 at 5:14 pm
Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
14464 posts
Posted on 7/16/23 at 5:16 pm to
quote:

You don't know anything about me, not my name, color, age, occupation, absolutely nothing yet you question my honesty.
Your not here to trade opinions, ideas, nor thoughts. Your here hiding behind your computer screen attempting to ease your fragile ego and convince yourself you're a smart person. You win. Your the smartest knife in the drawer!
Does that feel better? Enjoy your evening


Thanks for the chuckle
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
40295 posts
Posted on 7/16/23 at 5:17 pm to
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