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re: Zelensky announces $90 billion arms deal with US

Posted on 9/28/25 at 7:37 am to
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62907 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 7:37 am to
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If I give you $50 and then you buy $50 in merchandise from me did you really buy anything? No.


Fair enough, but it's still better than never getting any of the $50 back.
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Flyover, U.S.A.
Member since Jul 2019
8805 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 8:08 am to
quote:

Congrats Raytheon, Northrop Gunman. Death threats work.


MIC is stacked.

This “system” has had at least 60+ years to entrench itself.

Eisenhower warned of it.

To any soul thinking simply electing DJT was going to make this all go away…was naive at best.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
100706 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 8:37 am to
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There is nothing America First about our current administratoin.


This. It all changed after the pressure to release Epstein files. They must have something on Trump and he has to play ball with the uniparty or they’ll release it

More of the same once again
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
47711 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 8:56 am to
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As in they're buying from us? If so, I have no problem with this.



Really? Are you that dense?


Do you know where they got the money?


From you and me.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
19670 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 8:56 am to
Is that what they call the US military welfare plan? An arms deal? Sounds like a gift
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
47711 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 9:06 am to
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Is that what they call the US military welfare plan? An arms deal? Sounds like a gift





Theft from taxpayers is a "gift"?
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62907 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 9:29 am to
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Really? Are you that dense?


Do you know where they got the money?


From you and me.


This argument makes no sense to me would you rather they buy the weapons from other countries?
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
65253 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 9:51 am to
Yep
Posted by 19
Flux Capacitor, Fluxing
Member since Nov 2007
35516 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 9:58 am to
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We went from giving them billions to selling them billions in weapons.


"I took his billions and gave him a shoddy bomb casing full of used pinball machine parts!"

Doctor Emmitt Trump, 1985
Posted by WhoKnows
None of your fricking business
Member since Sep 2025
755 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 10:02 am to
quote:

As in they're buying from us? If so, I have no problem with this.

since the beginning, nearly 70% of all aid was spent in the US or on US forces

here, read this
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
67598 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 10:07 am to
Well, despite Trump’s best efforts, the reality is that the majority of the West and the GOP do not want Putin to succeed in Ukraine.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
23670 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 10:10 am to
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Not what I voted for


Me and you both my friend.

John McCain must be laughing somewhere in the lower echelons of Hell.



Posted by TacMed68W
CONUS
Member since Sep 2025
27 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 10:10 am to
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As in they're buying from us


Are you getting a check out of the sales? No…international companies are.

Just keep feeding the MIC and killing those made in God’s image while folks like you could care less as long as you have creature comforts and don’t feel the suffering.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
23670 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 10:22 am to
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That’s because you were too stupid to listen or read Trump’s actual positions. He has always said that he would increase aid to Ukraine if Russia did not negotiate in good faith.


“Negotiate” in good faith?




This biggest absurdity of this entire affair is the ludicrous notion that the United States is some passive, neutral party to this proxy war in the hinterlands of Eastern Europe.



Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37605 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 10:30 am to
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this proxy war i
Is it a proxy war when one of the two powers is directly fighting in it? Serious question.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
47711 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 10:33 am to
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This argument makes no sense to me would you rather they buy the weapons from other countries?




the military industrial complex is not your friend, dummy


"We" (the elites) send our tax money to other countries in exchange for their agreement to buy weapons from us. This has been going on for decades.

What do we as taxpayers benefit from the MIC profits? Not a fricking thing.

It's world class money laundering.


Jerk your head out of your arse.




Repeat: our tax dollars are stolen by the military industrial complex. Where do you think NGO's and etc get laundered money?
This post was edited on 9/28/25 at 10:36 am
Posted by Sunnyvale
Member since Feb 2024
2496 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 10:35 am to
We give moneies to Ukraine,
Ukraine buy Arms from US based Companies.

Winning

This is another investment for America?

This post was edited on 9/28/25 at 10:36 am
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
23670 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 10:37 am to
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Is it a proxy war when one of the two powers is directly fighting in it?


Well, the kleptocratic regime currently entrenched in Kiev is a proxy for one of the most corrupted political elements in the West: this nation’s MIC. Anyone who suggests otherwise is a fool or a tool.

Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
47711 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 10:37 am to
you're literally arguing that America should continue sending American tax dollars to other countries.
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
70184 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 10:40 am to
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I’d bet the Louisiana movie tax credit people are on his staff.

…here’s a dollar, but first you give it back to me, then I’ll use it to buy something from you…


While not ideal, this is way better than the usual flush the money down the toilet whike enriching themselves scheme.

At least this way the money keeps getting spent and reinvested, so in theory builds the economy and infrastructure
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