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re: Youtube demonitizes Dave Rubin's channel

Posted on 9/11/17 at 9:46 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 9/11/17 at 9:46 am to
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to placate the screeching SJWs.


In general, yes. The Twigglypuffs or whatever it's name was have won, in a way.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 9/11/17 at 9:48 am to
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I just don't see how you can present yourself for years as a forum generally open to all ideas and then suddenly think you can pick and choose what ideas you find "offensive" and think it will stop there and that's it.


they are not picking and choosing, that is the part youre choosing to ignore

they are putting a wide ad ban on it all, even the non-controversial political stuff

and like i said, the videos are still there...so?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/11/17 at 9:49 am to
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but even if was a big conspiracy theory and youtube is to blame, rubin can go elsewhere with his content

and what will happen is Google will ban that avenue, just like they did with Gab

your argument would be much more sound if the Gab banning did not occur. they're clearly picking sides

also, there are lots of examples of companies/people self-sacrificing for "the greater good" and/or virtue signalling in the short term in order to gain share to profit more long-term. it's a loss leader that's required in this polarized system that we find ourselves in currently. branding is so valuable today it's worth the short term loss
This post was edited on 9/11/17 at 9:50 am
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 9/11/17 at 9:51 am to
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theyre choosing to make less money while keeping his videos on their platform

advertisers are pulling the strings here, not youtube.



bullshite and you know it.

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but even if was a big conspiracy theory and youtube is to blame, rubin can go elsewhere with his content


Well that makes it ok then.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110878 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 9:51 am to
I'm not saying pick and choose with regard to particular political positions, though. I'm saying, you built yourself as an open forum for generally ALL ideas, and now you're suddenly deciding you want to limit POLITICAL discussion.

Your business model was based on this notion, which advertisers understood and wanted to be a part of when it got popular, and now you want to do an about face.

I'm just saying, I think it could backfire in a big way. I guess we shall see.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 9:51 am to
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they're clearly picking sides


you realize the uber leftist, 3rd wave feminst BS is getting demonetized too, right?
Posted by upgrayedd
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 9/11/17 at 9:53 am to
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you realize the uber leftist, 3rd wave feminst BS is getting demonetized too, right?

That would imply that Rubin is the reciprocal of those types. He clearly is not.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 9:53 am to
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you built yourself as an open forum for generally ALL ideas, and now you're suddenly deciding you want to limit POLITICAL discussion.



they are not removing the videos man...

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I'm just saying, I think it could backfire in a big way. I guess we shall see.


doubtful, youtube is about as big as a monopoly as they come
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 9:54 am to
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That would imply that Rubin is the reciprocal of those types. He clearly is not.


his titles are political in nature, no one knows for sure, but all videos that include titles that are political are facing the same issues
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476284 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 9:55 am to
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you realize the uber leftist, 3rd wave feminst BS is getting demonetized too, right?

yes. how does that apply to centrist, non-controversial Dave Rubin?

again, i specifically waited for Rubin to get hit b/c he is not controversial, trollig, or dramatic

if Rubin is demonitized, EVERY political video should be. how many centrist-left videos have been demonitized?

i know extremist ones have and some LBGTQ videos have been flagged, but i'm talking about non-controversial/extreme outlets
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138889 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 9:56 am to
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his titles are political in nature, no one knows for sure, but all videos that include titles that are political are facing the same issues

So I assume they're burying all CNN clips that have to do with politics as well, right?
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 9:57 am to
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again, i specifically waited for Rubin to get hit b/c he is not controversial, trollig, or dramatic


i 100% agree, i love rubin ftr

but youtube is making the decision to just put a blanket "ban" on it all

considering the amount of content which gets uploaded daily, im sure part of it is because that is simply easier to do so
This post was edited on 9/11/17 at 9:58 am
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 10:11 am to
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90% of videos are about politics, that is why they are being demonetized



OK, then people like Franchesca Ramsey and Anita Sarkesian are all about politics and they piss me off. So they should be demonitized as well? Wait they aren't. You mean so long as you're a Leftist Hack that you can still make money on YouTube, but conservatives, libertarians, and classical liberals (which have really won the platform over the SJWs) can't make money on there? This isn't about defending capitalism, what YouTube is doing is Orwellian. They can no longer say they're a free speech platform.

If Hillary had won, I guarantee we wouldn't be seeing this. They largely blame YouTube and people like Sargon of Akkad and Dave Rubin for giving these thoughts a platform to allow Trump to win. That hit piece of PewDiePie by the WSJ would have never happened. What they're trying to do is turn YouTube into cable, hence why I refuse to give them cash for YouTube Red.

shite, does anyone remember those YouTube commercials last year that pretty much said "frick white people and go out and rob a gas station since that's what normal people do?" Here's that commercial that pretty much says committing crimes and having kids you can't afford is perfectly acceptable: LINK

That commercial is the most batshit insane advertisement I've ever see from a non-ambulance chaser. I would just love to be in the boardroom when that (among other horrible commercials) were pitched around the table. These people are batshit insane and should be called out for their bullshite to their faces as often as possible. They're delusional Leftists who thinks everyone thinks their way, and if not they're racists who should be fired. Just everyone to the right of Karl Marx is a racist to these people.
This post was edited on 9/11/17 at 10:33 am
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 10:20 am to
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advertisers are pulling the strings here, not youtube.



Which is total bullshite. You don't want advertisers dictating what message is appropriate and which isn't. It's why O'Reilly got the boot, and it was bullshite due to his ratings being higher than ever.

If you are comfortable with advertisers dictating what the press and people can say, then you will have Idiocracy as your future: LINK
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 10:22 am to
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they are not picking and choosing, that is the part youre choosing to ignore

they are putting a wide ad ban on it all, even the non-controversial political stuff

and like i said, the videos are still there...so?




Actually, that's exactly what is happening. Go ask Franchesca Ramsey or Anita Sarkesian if they have been negatively affected by the Adpocalypse. They haven't. They are completely cherrypicking these people.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476284 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 10:24 am to
yeah simple question: has the young turks been demonetized?
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 10:26 am to
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you realize the uber leftist, 3rd wave feminst BS is getting demonetized too, right?



Total bullshite. Anita Sarkessian has been bitching for months that all of her critics still make some money from YouTube and it's not enough that they haven't completely been silenced. The only Leftie issue I've seen negatively affected are LGBT videos. Other than that, nothing.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 10:27 am to
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doubtful, youtube is about as big as a monopoly as they come



Which is actually a point in my favor, while you're just going with the almighty dollar always being right.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 10:29 am to
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yeah simple question: has the young turks been demonetized?



Actually, yeah some have. I think the Sam Harris one has and multiple from Jimmy Dore. They do speak out very regularly against the establishment and hate the elected Democrats, so I'm thinking thats more where their demonetization is coming from.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476284 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 10:31 am to
just saw that Twitter banned Sargon
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