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re: You weren’t put on Earth to own a house
Posted on 7/28/25 at 12:46 pm to TrueTiger
Posted on 7/28/25 at 12:46 pm to TrueTiger
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Most humans haven’t owned their homes for the last 10,000 years.
quote:the frick
I understand what you're saying
quote:And you believe that all humans were nomadic 10,000 years ago and didnt have cities? didnt own homes? did they own their huts or did they rent them out to everyone in their tribe. Like a social tent for everyone.
Nomadic tribes didn't even comprehend ownership in the sense of legal titles
quote:possessiveness is a human trait that spans all eternity. This isnt some new concept developed by 20th century humans.
But if you think the system of ownership humans have developed over the past few hundred years
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Posted on 7/28/25 at 12:46 pm to weagle1999
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What I am saying is people have been conditioned to think that a main purpose of their lives is owning a structure.
According to who? People are different and will give you a multitude of answers. Personally, I think my main purpose in life as my children were growing up, was to provide them what they needed: food, shelter, protection, etc. Owning a structure is just a mechanism to have stability for the long term.
Posted on 7/28/25 at 12:49 pm to AuburnTigers
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And you believe that all humans were nomadic 10,000 years ago and didnt have cities? didnt own homes? did they own their huts or did they rent them out to everyone in their tribe.
Like a social tent for everyone.
Did Joseph and Mary own or rent their place in Nazareth?
Posted on 7/28/25 at 12:49 pm to the808bass
quote:I can point you to any number of neighborhoods where you can still buy an 817 square foot 1946 house for under $30k.
Add in that $5150 in 1946 is $85,000 today.
Example:
Posted on 7/28/25 at 12:50 pm to weagle1999
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I’m saying that unless you plan to sell (hopefully) for a profit then whatever we are talking about isn’t a necessarily a financial investment.
If you die before you are able to sell it for a profit, most people leave it to their children. It's still a financial investment. Are you a commie? Seriously.
Posted on 7/28/25 at 12:52 pm to UtahCajun
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Before I get totally onboard, please explain this marketing barrage that sways us into new homes and away from older, existing homes.
Well, I think it is embedded into our society to want the latest thing possible, and I think that we have all been conditioned to that idea (me included). And new homes certainly fall into that. Think of all effort the that goes into promoting the concept of new construction with the latest marble or hot water heater or whatever.
There are people that prefer the older homes (me included again). But the home construction industry can’t make much money off of those people.
Different segments I guess.
This post was edited on 7/28/25 at 12:56 pm
Posted on 7/28/25 at 12:53 pm to weagle1999
quote:quote:
we realize humans have owned their domiciles for over 10000 years.
But they haven’t.
Not because they didnt yearn for it, but because they were barred from it
Kings, Monarchs, Czars, Pharaohs, Emperors determined land ownership. Then we the people Magna Carta'd the hell out of them dudes. And after a series of revolutions finally pried land from the monarchs, people could then build their own place to reside. No longer renting from the whims of a landLORD. Who had to continue building shoddy apartments for a growing population
So construction will forever continue via homeowners or investors. I choose homeowners every single time
Posted on 7/28/25 at 12:53 pm to weagle1999
quote:which proves your ignorance further.
I’m saying that unless you plan to sell (hopefully) for a profit then whatever we are talking about isn’t a necessarily a financial investment.
When you pay your mortgage payments, you are paying the interest on the loan and the PRINCIPAL. As you pay the principal off each month, you build equity in your home. Making it an INVESTMENT in your own future. So instead of paying your landlord rent each month, you pay yourself and the bank so that when you go to resell your home, all the PRINCIPAL you paid on your loan is returned to you.
hope this helps
Posted on 7/28/25 at 12:54 pm to Tigergreg
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If you die before you are able to sell it for a profit, most people leave it to their children. It's still a financial investment. Are you a commie? Seriously.
I’m not, and I can’t take credit for the idea that a home shouldn’t be considered an investment (see the book Rich Dad, Poor Dad)
Posted on 7/28/25 at 12:55 pm to AuburnTigers
Didn’t read but offering you another chance to get some anger out. Go for it.
Posted on 7/28/25 at 12:55 pm to weagle1999
quote:
I’m saying that unless you plan to sell (hopefully) for a profit then whatever we are talking about isn’t a necessarily a financial investment.
What percentage of people do you suppose sell their homes and property for a loss?
Posted on 7/28/25 at 12:57 pm to Y.A. Tittle
quote:Technically, Americans dont OWN their home either.
Did Joseph and Mary own or rent their place in Nazareth?
The government owns it. Dont believe me, pay off your home then skip paying real estate taxes. See how long you own your home.
Posted on 7/28/25 at 12:57 pm to Smeg
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What percentage of people do you suppose sell their homes and property for a loss?
Don’t know.
What percentage of people who call their homes investments never sell them before dying?
Posted on 7/28/25 at 12:57 pm to weagle1999
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I’m not, and I can’t take credit for the idea that a home shouldn’t be considered an investment (see the book Rich Dad, Poor Dad)
I don’t feel you fully grasp what they were getting at there, but from my brief glance of this thread, it seems you see many things as caricatures of your own preconceived notions.
Posted on 7/28/25 at 1:00 pm to weagle1999
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What percentage of people who call their homes investments never sell them before dying?
It's still an investment, just bequeathed to their children.
Are you one of those who believes in 100% inheritance tax so that nobody is born with an advantage over another?
Posted on 7/28/25 at 1:01 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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I don’t feel you fully grasp what they were getting at there, but from my brief glance of this thread, it seems you see many things as caricatures of your own preconceived notions.
Maybe so.
But I am looking at my notions and taking a bunch of arrows on a message board while I sound them out. How many people who are calling me names have ever stopped to ask ‘Why do I believe X?’
Posted on 7/28/25 at 1:01 pm to Forgettingjersey89
quote:Real estate taxes should be considered unconstitutional. Creates economic slaves out of all of us
This was my point exactly. Home ownership is a myth
Posted on 7/28/25 at 1:01 pm to weagle1999
You sound retarded
Posted on 7/28/25 at 1:02 pm to weagle1999
I wasn't put here to eat etouffee and hushpuppies either but I sure enjoy it.
Posted on 7/28/25 at 1:02 pm to weagle1999
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What percentage of people who call their homes investments never sell them before dying?
The only way to sell it is BEFORE dying. I don't know of any dead sellers. Probate is another matter.
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