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re: You weren’t put on Earth to own a house
Posted on 7/28/25 at 12:18 pm to weagle1999
Posted on 7/28/25 at 12:18 pm to weagle1999
Private property as a concept is a pretty universal idea. I think what you’re aiming at is interesting. But there’s more at stake here than owning a home being a construct of modern marketing.
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Posted on 7/28/25 at 12:18 pm to weagle1999
quote:and youve been conditioned to think that it doesnt
What I am saying is people have been conditioned to think that a main purpose of their lives is owning a structure.
Posted on 7/28/25 at 12:19 pm to weagle1999
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Read it again. I offered several options for whatever belief system the reader adhered to.
So you believe in God?
If so, you are still confused. The right is referred to as “God given” as a way of describing the limit on Government and as being absolute.
This post was edited on 7/28/25 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 7/28/25 at 12:19 pm to AuburnTigers
Here’s another message that you can reply to and resort to angry name calling. Go for it
Posted on 7/28/25 at 12:20 pm to weagle1999
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Is it an assumption that the US should continue building new houses forever?
No, but the inventory of reasonable starter houses should go up. I'm not saying it is "right", but I would be in favor of at least some subsidy/incentive, because:
1. Getting that first house is a springboard to the middle class,
2. Folks who own a house have something to lose - that is a great motivator for good behavior
3. The alternative to reasonable starter homes is to pack new families into trailer parks and high density apartments - to a certain degree the former is unavoidable in rural areas as is the latter in urban areas, but to make that the only/primary choice for young families has/will continue to be a disaster
So, there's all of that.
Posted on 7/28/25 at 12:20 pm to weagle1999
quote:Hope it scarred you for life.
Here’s another message that you can reply to and resort to angry name calling. Go for it
Posted on 7/28/25 at 12:20 pm to weagle1999
quote:
What I am saying is people have been conditioned to think that a main purpose of their lives is owning a structure.
Be very clear: what is your superior alternative to human beings owning shelter to live in?
Posted on 7/28/25 at 12:20 pm to weagle1999
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Should the population of the US grow forever into eternity?
This seems like a relatively neutral question on the basis of morality.
As we currently stand, we are below the replacement birth rate. This helps explain the commitment to immigration from our overlords.
Posted on 7/28/25 at 12:20 pm to AuburnTigers
quote:
and youve been conditioned to think that it doesnt
Nah. I’m an questioning why things are the way they are. I am questioning our assumptions as a society
Message #2 you can reply to with angry name calling.
Posted on 7/28/25 at 12:20 pm to weagle1999
Yeah, frick Maslow and that whole need for shelter thing.
Posted on 7/28/25 at 12:22 pm to weagle1999
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What I am saying is people have been conditioned to think that a main purpose of their lives is owning a structure.
So... where should people live? In a structure someone else owns? In a lean to that they've built in the woods out of materials they've gathered via foraging?
We gotta live somewhere... and SOMEONE has to own where we live.
Posted on 7/28/25 at 12:22 pm to weagle1999
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My point or question is this: How much of what you want is what you actually want or what society conditioned you to want? (for profit)
Interesting point. It kinda falls flat when we realize humans have owned their domiciles for over 10000 years.
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Had no one told you otherwise, would you naturally wanted to spend hours of your limited cutting grass each week?
I like my shite to look good. Sorry you do not. I mean, I could go with Zeroscape, but nah, grass looks better.
Posted on 7/28/25 at 12:23 pm to Smeg
quote:
Be very clear: what is your superior alternative to human beings owning shelter to live in?
I don’t know that I have one. And I’m not saying that people
shouldn’t own houses.
I’m saying that the ‘need’ for new houses (or however many other things) is largely a marketing construct.
Posted on 7/28/25 at 12:23 pm to weagle1999
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I don’t think so. I think the ‘American Dream’ of owning a house is largely a marketing invention to sell more houses.
Because no one throughout the history of the world ever wanted their own place to live before marketing
Posted on 7/28/25 at 12:23 pm to UtahCajun
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we realize humans have owned their domiciles for over 10000 years.
But they haven’t.
Posted on 7/28/25 at 12:23 pm to Lynxrufus2012
quote:The average size of a new single-family home built in the U.S. that year was 817 square feet, 2 BR, 1 BA, driveway only, no carport or garage, poorly insulated, wooden single-paned windows, no security system, no Ethernet cabling, no dishwasher, no AC, Formica countertops instead of stone or Corian countertops, no sprinkler systems or mandated landscaping by an HOA.
The average price of a home in 1946 was $5150
Posted on 7/28/25 at 12:24 pm to weagle1999
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I am questioning our assumptions as a society
More accurately, you are questioning the assumptions of human history. It’s not particular to post-postmodern United States.
This post was edited on 7/28/25 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 7/28/25 at 12:24 pm to weagle1999
quote:no you are not. You are being antagonistic with limited knowledge or experience in life.
’m an questioning why things are the way they are
quote:Your takes are laced with ignorance and stupidity. Like a leftwing college student who hates his life and his father
Message #2 you can reply to with angry name calling.
Posted on 7/28/25 at 12:24 pm to jchamil
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Because no one throughout the history of the world ever wanted their own place to live before marketing
Maybe they weren’t convinced their life would be a failure if they didn’t
Posted on 7/28/25 at 12:25 pm to weagle1999
quote:Here, your stupidity is on full display. You really think humans didnt have shelter/homes throughout history?
But they haven’t.
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