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re: WTF is going on in Wisconsin
Posted on 2/25/25 at 12:33 pm to SammyTiger
Posted on 2/25/25 at 12:33 pm to SammyTiger
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same-sex situations
This is the real problem. Get rid of this and you don't need to change anything.
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Posted on 2/25/25 at 12:41 pm to TDTOM
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This is the real problem. Get rid of this and you don't need to change anything.
there you go.
but it’s a lot easier to pitch “dems want to call mothers inseminated persons” than “we should get rid of gay marriage”
This post was edited on 2/25/25 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 2/25/25 at 1:14 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
They went from Marine Corp vet Joseph McCarthy to pussy hat Paul Ryan, within my fathers lifetime
Aint that a bitch
Aint that a bitch
Posted on 2/25/25 at 1:48 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
What if you adopt and you’re neither inseminated nor the natural parent?
Posted on 2/25/25 at 1:49 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
Lots of dumbarses in that state. Look at Cuckycheese
Posted on 2/25/25 at 1:56 pm to NoHoTiger
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What if you adopt and you’re neither inseminated nor the natural parent?
i don’t think any of the laws involved are about adoption.
Most involve presumptions of parenthood. Like if your wife has a baby we presume the husband is the father. You gotta go out of your way to prove you are not if you don’t want to be the legal parent of the child.
a lot of that is being extended in situations for same sex marriages.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 1:57 pm to SammyTiger
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But you know who uses donor sperm a lot? Lesbians.
What does the above have to do with this:
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So they changed the language be gender neutral. and avoid confusion in some cases.
Are women creating sperm these days or something?
Your arguments are completely illogical and disingenuous, but I'll give you credit for trying to make it make sense to reasonable people.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 2:00 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Its a feminine ideology. It's going to be based on entitlements and not merit, feelings over outcome.
They won't stop until women cease to exist...they will only be a concept that anyone can decide they align with.
And these are allegedly the "feminists" doing it, while conservatives and the right who fight to protect women's spaces, and acknowledge them for what they are (and are not) are the fascists and science deniers.
Makes sense, right?
ETA: I've said it before, but the book 1984 was a cautionary tale, these progressives are using it as a manual.
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The Purpose of Newspeak in 1984
In 1984, the government is constantly adapting and refining Newspeak by eliminating and replacing words. In chapter 5 book 1, Winston has lunch with a man named Syme. Syme has been working on a new revised Newspeak dictionary. In this chapter Syme explains that Newspeak is expected to replace Oldspeak (Standard English) around 2050. He explains the principles of Newspeak and says that it is the only language that regularly loses words in order to narrow the range of thought. Newspeak was designed to control – not to enhance – communication between people.
This post was edited on 2/25/25 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 2/25/25 at 2:03 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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Its a feminine ideology. It's going to be based on entitlements and not merit, feelings over outcome.
They won't stop until women cease to exist...they will only be a concept that anyone can decide they align with.
I saw this yesterday..
Posted on 2/25/25 at 2:03 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
America went full retard when it went down the garden path to re-define reality when trying to legitimize the farce of homo-marriage. It's been a cascade of words losing meanings, and feelings-and-fantasy overriding facts. A real Pandora's Box of cultural retardation, along with endless dollops of depravity.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 2:04 pm to SammyTiger
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You gotta go out of your way to prove you are not if you don’t want to be the legal parent of the child.
a lot of that is being extended in situations for same sex marriages.
I mean, if we ignore the fact that it's physically impossible for two people in a same sex marriage to both be the biological parents of a child.
So by all means change the language to "fix" a problem that doesn't exist.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 2:05 pm to Chucktown_Badger
Listen, I get what you’re saying. they could have left “man” alone and the statue would have functioned fine.
They could have changed “mother” at the end to “the inseminated mother” and that also would have worked.
But at the same time, that’s a pretty minor complaint and not the same as Wisconsin decided across the board to call mothers “inseminated persons”
They had a bunch of gendered statues that weren’t working and the transitioned them to gender neutral and they work in every imaginable situation.
you know what this does?
It stops a mom from trying to deny a father’s paternity because he sperm doner is legally a “woman”
Would she win? unlikely. is it worth the courts time to decide that? Not when you can just say person.
They could have changed “mother” at the end to “the inseminated mother” and that also would have worked.
But at the same time, that’s a pretty minor complaint and not the same as Wisconsin decided across the board to call mothers “inseminated persons”
They had a bunch of gendered statues that weren’t working and the transitioned them to gender neutral and they work in every imaginable situation.
you know what this does?
It stops a mom from trying to deny a father’s paternity because he sperm doner is legally a “woman”
Would she win? unlikely. is it worth the courts time to decide that? Not when you can just say person.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 2:06 pm to SDVTiger
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Lots of dumbarses in that state. Look at Cuckycheese
Madison is super progressive by itself, and that's just amplified exponentially by the University so these laws are created in that echo chamber. Aside from there and a good chunk of Milwaukee County Wisconsin is red. Getting moreso as you go further north.
Don't forget, Wisconsin was an important swing state that helped tip the scales for Trump in Nov.
This post was edited on 2/25/25 at 2:07 pm
Posted on 2/25/25 at 2:14 pm to SammyTiger
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They had a bunch of gendered statues
FIFY
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*They had a bunch of sex-based statutes
Reproduction is a biological process. One man, one woman. But progressives such as yourself made up this concept of gender and told everyone it's a fact anyone can be either. This is the issue we keep bumping up against.
I'm going to make up a new term for race and anyone can decide they're black, white, asian, whatever they want to be or feel like they are (genetics and science be damned) in that moment. And we can normalize people changing their skin color and hair through surgery and other treatments, and celebrate their strength and bravery, and create a day to honor white people who are now black for said bravery and the struggles they face as a black person. That sound good? Feelings are all that matter, and I appreciate your support, comrade.
ETA: It just continues to amaze me these people make these arguments with straight faces. Almost like it's a decade long Punk'd episode or some shite. Again, out of 1984..."ignore the evidence of your eyes and ears."
This post was edited on 2/25/25 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 2/25/25 at 2:17 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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I mean, if we ignore the fact that it's physically impossible for two people in a same sex marriage to both be the biological parents of a child.
sure but the law in Wisconsin also considers the husband of a woman who is undergoing artificial insemination through a sperm donor to be a “natural parent” (legal term) if he consents to be.
That’s one of the big things being changed.
That’s what u mean by “ a lot of that is being extended in situations for same sex marriages.” but it wasn’t super clear.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 2:19 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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Reproduction is a biological process. One man, one woman. But progressives such as yourself made up this concept of gender and told everyone it's a fact anyone can be either. This is the issue we keep bumping up against.
We are literally discussing a statue that before the changes dealt with a husband and wife and 3rd party sperm donor.
that guy is no more biologically the kids parent than a lesbian in the same situation.
that’s the whole fricking point.
This post was edited on 2/25/25 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 2/25/25 at 2:23 pm to SammyTiger
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sure but the law in Wisconsin also considers the husband of a woman who is undergoing artificial insemination through a sperm donor to be a “natural parent” (legal term) if he consents to be.
That’s one of the big things being changed
So change it to "legal parent". Also, if that was the big issue and we're not pushing your trans and gender agenda, why wipe "mother" from the books?
Just got my 78 year old Mom's take on it (still lives in Green Bay), "I can't even comment, if you address me as an inseminated person I would do what I used to just warn you with, slap you down
" 
This post was edited on 2/25/25 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 2/25/25 at 2:28 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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Getting moreso as you go further north.
Sounds like Michigan. Same pattern. Big Southern cities are Dem, most of the rest (except Marquette) was for Trump.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 2:42 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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So change it to "legal parent". Also, if that was the big issue and we're not pushing your trans and gender agenda, why wipe "mother" from the books?
They haven’t wiped mother from the books. They still use the term mother in plenty of other laws.
They changed in in laws where there could be 2 mothers or 2 fathers and calling one mother and “spouse” could confuse the 2.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 2:44 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
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“inseminated person”.
Pretty much proves Democrats have no fricking clue why they are out of favor.
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