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re: WTF - Why postpose the protests if they had NO relation to the murders?

Posted on 12/22/14 at 7:15 pm to
Posted by BuckyBadger
Member since Aug 2014
740 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 7:15 pm to
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I think we should go for being RATIONAL and talk about each on it's merits. And maybe start by defining these two terms : PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. MORAL CULPABILITY. And go from there.
There is nothing in your posts suggesting rationality.

I didn't attack your definitions or disagree with them. They don't affect my point whatsoever.

Feel free to point out the differences between my examples and media/mayor and prove my opinion wrong.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
79487 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 7:20 pm to
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onmymedicalgrind

The Baghdad Bob of Racial Victimization is in the House.
Good to see you man.
Thanks for letting us know there was "nothing to see" here.
S'all good man.
Amiright?
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
10591 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 7:30 pm to
Sorry pimp, our break hasn't started so I have been busy and havent had the time to sit on a CPU all day and intricately discuss this with you. Sorry to dissapoint.
Posted by WmWallace
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 7:35 pm to
Grind, as a doc, I wouldn't recommend you go into ER medicine..your perspective of violence is going to change dramatically
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
10591 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 7:38 pm to
Huh? Whats my perspective on violence now?
Posted by WmWallace
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
1820 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 7:45 pm to
Just making a worldly perspective buddy, you aren't gonna see many cops on perp violence while you are gonna see a whole lot of perp on perp
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
79487 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 7:47 pm to
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Sorry pimp, our break hasn't started so I have been busy and havent had the time to sit on a CPU all day and intricately discuss this with you. Sorry to dissapoint.

I'm yanking your chain man. I've got 16 days off.
Mad Respek for both your self-deprecating humor and your ambition to be a physician and help people.
Sincerely.

Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
10591 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 7:50 pm to
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Just making a worldly perspective buddy, you aren't gonna see many cops on perp violence while you are gonna see a whole lot of perp on perp

I'm well aware. I've spent extended periods of times in both EDs and trauma bays. I'm still confused as to what you're getting at. Did you (incorrectly) assume I believed cop violence was responsible for the most ED/trauma visits?
Posted by WmWallace
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
1820 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 8:04 pm to
Not at all..just humbly think your perspective of race relations will evolve as you age, take boards, wear down on call, etc..I'm all for protesting injustice and individuals rights to show their grievance..but this whole situation has gone too far and it's been enabled by our country's leaders because it's the easiest path..this is a teaching opportunity for the police system and also for the urban communities who live by a completely different cultural compass..I just wish Obama would empathize with the people who risk their lives protecting these neighborhoods while educating the police that killing people should be the last resort.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
10591 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 8:46 pm to
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Lsupimp

Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
10591 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 8:47 pm to
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WmWallace

Can't argue with that
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 9:13 pm to
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Feel free to point out the differences between my examples and media/mayor and prove my opinion wrong.


Well, for starters, the guy who flew a plane into the IRS building was a leftist. His manifesto was a set of Occupy talking points. And Giffords had a literal target on her on a liberal website prior to the shooting (which they removed and tried to deny they had.)

So you're going full-fledged hack on this one. Blaming conservatives for violent rhetoric spweed by the left and violent actions carried out by the left.
Posted by WmWallace
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
1820 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:10 pm to
Posted by Vegas Bengal
Member since Feb 2008
26344 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 4:18 am to
The IRS guy was coming down on the guy for unreported income. He didn't crash the plane bc of politics. He crashed it bc he hated the IRS.

As for the mayor, if anyone thinks this thug wouldn't have committed the murders had the mayor publically reprimanded the idiot protestors, he needs his head examined. And had the mayor not asked for a pause in the protests (which apparently fell on deaf ears, my guess is CB would have started a thread attacking him for not doing so.

This business of arguing who is nuttier and who is more patriotic is like kids arguing whose dad could beat up the others dad.

With all the vitriol we saw from the far right, had some nut done something really stupid, it would be the pimps and the CBs claiming there is no connection.

Enough with this shite.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 5:50 am to
You're so up your own arse that you're making fun of mourning family members. frick you.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33744 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 2:41 pm to
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The Mayor was a clear ADVOCATE for the protestors against the Police.


You can say this all you want, but it doesn't make it true.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
43172 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 3:03 pm to
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my guess is CB would have started a thread attacking him for not doing so.


Pause the protests hell - stop the tiprotests - or at least quite supporting true damne things.

I was on his arse = as well as Obama and Holder = for lending any support to these idiots since the Brown case hit the news cycle. It was all a FALSE NARRATIVE that the nitwits were protesting - and kind of real LEADERSHIP would have come out and tried to normalize the situation by at least promoting the FACTs and not fanning the flames of the ignorant by sympathizing with them..

Then the Garner crap erupted and again, obama, holder and now Blasio started whole hearted support for the malingerers. (of course the would end their screeds with "but we don't want violence' wink wink) so that idiots like you can come in and absolve them of the consequences.

This was predictable - there are mentally unstable people everywhere = and when you pump them up and eagerly support whatever neuroses they suffer from, you are partially responsible for when they blow up and hurt someone.

Yes, of course this deranged individual MAY have gone out and killed someone just for shits and giggles. But he had NOT done it til now - and NOW is when he made it clear he was doing it to get back at the police for their involvement with Brown and Garner.

Both these events were exhaustively examined by a grand jury and the police were found to not be criminally at fault. In fact the Brown case should have not even been sent to the grand jury - it was patently obvious the police had no culpability there.

The only possible wrongdoing in the Garner case may have been not following precise police policy.

There was absolutely no evidence of racial bias in either of these cases.


YET - the POTUS, the AG and the fricking MAYOR interjected race into BOTH these issues = for the express purpose of keeping the riots going.

And when the riots turned ugly they did nothing to try to stop them other than to utter a few half-hearted platitudes = 'we don;t encourage violence'

BULL:shite - they are complicit in the damage done by these ill-advised riots and they are morally culpable for the murder of these two policemen.

To reiterate - the only positive thing Blasio can do now is to repudiate the basis for the riots from the beginning - explain to the rioters how the justice system works - denounce them for chasing false narratives - and vow to PREVENT them from further advocating this fake bullshite.

Asking for a fricking "pause" is bullshite. Hell, the rioters themselves know they need to stop their nonsense for a couple of weeks. In fact asking for a "Pause" is nothing more than encouraging them to START AGAIN in a week or so.

Yes - remaining silent would be better than asking for a 'pause.'
Posted by BuckyBadger
Member since Aug 2014
740 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 5:52 pm to
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Well, for starters, the guy who flew a plane into the IRS building was a leftist. His manifesto was a set of Occupy talking points. And Giffords had a literal target on her on a liberal website prior to the shooting (which they removed and tried to deny they had.) So you're going full-fledged hack on this one. Blaming conservatives for violent rhetoric spweed by the left and violent actions carried out by the left.


And Tiller. And abortion clinics. And Murrah. And centennial park. And Sikh temple murders.

Please tell me that lame response isn't all you have.
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