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re: WSJ waits for ruling and runs another story with sources.. Trump involved

Posted on 7/23/25 at 4:18 pm to
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 7/23/25 at 4:18 pm to
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People are falling into the same trap as the last term. This is all BS - but the media can shape the narrative with headlines. The administration needs to get a handle on this.


I agree and have said as much somewhere on this board today.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
15520 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 4:18 pm to
Supposedly trump found out a few months ago that his name was mentioned throughout the files.

Since then it appears as though trumps attitude toward the whole thing has changed.

Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
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Posted on 7/23/25 at 4:20 pm to
If Obama’s name was mentioned in the files, would anyone doubt the veracity of it?
Posted by antman123
Member since Feb 2014
190 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 4:21 pm to
you
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22110 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 4:22 pm to
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so they have names

Yes
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just unsubstantiated claims

No, Names and other stuff which may include unsubstantiated claims or party invitations.
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they release said names, not only do they set off a witch hunt, but how do they not get sued by all of those people that they have now tied to epsteins crimes with no actual proof.

That's why the courts won't release the GJ testimony.
quote:

theres no way they are going to release names unless they have actual evidence of those people committing crimes. no matter how bad people want the witch hunt.

See immediately above^
Posted by antman123
Member since Feb 2014
190 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 4:25 pm to
i was of the opinion that we might see some grand jury testimony documents because that would be the stuff most likely to have actual evidence substantiating it. i guess we will have to see how the judges rule in the other cases that they requested
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 4:25 pm to
Mid-terms are going to be a blood bath. So much material against the magats.
Posted by jbdawgs03
Athens
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Posted on 7/23/25 at 4:28 pm to
Wager?
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
35371 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 4:30 pm to
So you'll bite at the shiny thing in front of your face because it's shiny. This is a shiny thing
Posted by jbdawgs03
Athens
Member since Oct 2017
12346 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 4:33 pm to
So like you with anything you think will get Trump
Posted by Auy2k
Member since Aug 2020
426 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 4:33 pm to
If Trump was in it then the dems would have released the files years ago because they are so eaten up with TDS.
Posted by PorkSammich
North FL
Member since Sep 2013
16597 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 4:37 pm to
So Elon wasn’t lying??
Posted by antman123
Member since Feb 2014
190 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 4:37 pm to
trump is in the files, everyone knows this, but what you are saying, i think, is if there was any evidence of trump doing anything wrong in the files, it clearly would have been leaked at a minimum

Posted by antman123
Member since Feb 2014
190 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 4:39 pm to
elon was implying that trump had banged kids with that tweet, thats why he said he went too far and deleted it. no one with any sense would not assume trump would be mentioned in the epstein files given their known history
This post was edited on 7/23/25 at 4:41 pm
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
35371 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 4:44 pm to
No doubt on the Epstein files. Personally, I think Trump doesn't want it released because innocent people and true victims could be hurt by the release.

I actually think he's being pretty decent in respect to the victims......he knows however you'll never accept it, so he has to misdirect and offer you up some rancid meat for you to chew on for a few days.

You'll eat it, too.
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 4:46 pm to
Not just yet. Let’s see if Trump can pull some magic out of his arse and make this Epstein mess go away. He’s trying awfully hard with the Obama and Clinton distractions, neither of whom seem at all worried. He’s very good at manipulation but this involves the people who voted for him only because of the economy - a very big group. They may finally be repulsed by his character enough to desert him.

If it does come to it, what kind of wager are you thinking about?
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85177 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 4:47 pm to
Who didn't know Trump's name were in the files?


There are a bunch of names in the files.



There are names all over the JFK files. That doesn't mean every name in the file killed JFK.

Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85177 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 4:49 pm to
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If Obama’s name was mentioned in the files, would anyone doubt the veracity of it?


Michelle Obama called Weinstein a dear friend and a wonderful human.


Was Michelle fricking actresses with Weinstein? She must have since they are besties.



Add whoopi to the guilty list too.


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This post was edited on 7/23/25 at 4:53 pm
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 5:00 pm to
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I actually think he's being pretty decent in respect to the victims......he knows however you'll never accept it, so he has to misdirect and offer you up some rancid meat for you to chew on for a few days.


Trump is not known for his empathy.

The bottom line in this situation is that he is the sitting president and there is speculation about his involvement with Epstein. Lots of it. He has three options:

1. Shutter the files and accept whatever comes;

2. Release all of the files and accept whatever comes; and,

3. Make it all go away.

He’s desperately trying for the third option but it isn’t working. It isn’t going away. Will he try something more extreme next? Say, resigning? Oh, sorry, I’m fantasizing.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
34980 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 5:06 pm to
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I’m fantasizing

Now that’s a reasonable and rational conclusion. The rest of it, not so much.
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