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Posted on 8/12/22 at 1:38 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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What constitutes a “set of classified information”? Seems like odd nomenclature.
Also, when was it classified or reclassified?
Posted on 8/12/22 at 1:40 pm to NashvilleTider
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according to the law - when Trump took them out of the whitehouse they became declassified. that's how this works
Posted on 8/12/22 at 1:40 pm to NashvilleTider
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according to the law - when Trump took them out of the whitehouse they became declassified. that's how this works
No, he does have to declassify them before leaving office, but that is his right.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 1:41 pm to Mickey Goldmill
Mickey Goldmill why are you laughing - that is a fact.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 1:42 pm to Fun Bunch
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He was the President of the United States. He is in charge of what is Classified or Top Secret, there is no one "above him". If he determined they are not, they are not.
I agree with all of that. That is not my point. Trump declassifying highly sensitive information so he can take it home (for whatever nefarious reason) is not remotely right or ethical. You are merely hiding a very serious issue behind a legal technicality.
And him stating now that he declassified them over a year ago isn't going to fly unless he has some type of verifiable documentation backing it up. (Word of warning to him, scientists can often determine how long ago ink was placed on paper.)
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There's been no evidence that any actual Top Secret or Classified documents were there. THe FBI had access to these documents including just in June, and did nothing.
No, they did not. They were in discussion with Trump about the documents. Trump turned some over but did not inform the FBI about the presence of others. They just recently were made aware of the presence of more documents.
The FBI made good faith efforts to recover all of the documents before they resulted in executing a search warrant. They allowed Trump time to turn over the documents. They went to Mar-A-Lago to discuss the matter. They were far more deferential to Trump than they would be with anyone else. But it appears that Trump was insistent on hiding the remaining documents and at some point for national security reasons the government had to take possession of those documents, and the government had exhausted the options of having them voluntarily returned.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 1:42 pm to Ag Zwin
He should have put them in the bunker I guess he’s going to hide in when his own country gets nuked because he sold nuke secrets to people who want to nuke the country he lives in and wants to be president of because money.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 1:42 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Waiting on news outlets to post photos of the documents
Posted on 8/12/22 at 1:43 pm to ChapelHillSooner
Trump has earned the right to do what ever he wants
Posted on 8/12/22 at 1:44 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
So it’s classified but WSJ is taking inventory of if?
Posted on 8/12/22 at 1:44 pm to ChapelHillSooner
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No, they did not
Maybe you know something I do not, but it has been heavily reported that they did. They had access to every file, looked them all over in June, and recommended he get a better lock.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 1:45 pm to Fun Bunch
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His team has said he declassified everything in his possession. Should we not hold them to their word until other evidence is presented?
Legality aside, do you think it is remotely for Trump to declassify the documents that have been reported - including documents that have names of US intelligence assets - so that he can take them home with him?
How in the world can you defend that?
Posted on 8/12/22 at 1:46 pm to ChapelHillSooner
We do not know that any of what you are suggesting is in his possession, but yes, the President of the United States can declassify *almost* anything he wants.
I have seen nothing of substance that suggests he has anything of the sort.
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including documents that have names of US intelligence assets
I have seen nothing of substance that suggests he has anything of the sort.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 1:47 pm to Fun Bunch
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His team has said he declassified everything in his possession. Should we not hold them to their word until other evidence is presented?
In this matter, the burden of proof is on Trump. Produce the original documents.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 1:47 pm to NashvilleTider
Because shes upset
This post was edited on 8/12/22 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 8/12/22 at 1:47 pm to AggieHank86
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Then it should be a simple matter for you to link the memoranda.
I eagerly await that link.
As long as he took it while POTUS and it's in his possession, it's declassified...this is what has been explained to me.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 1:48 pm to Y.A. Tittle
quote:Here it is.
Is there an official government site where you can find the other one you are referencing and contending may constitute the entirety of what Trump declassified? In other words, where'd you "find" it?
Posted on 8/12/22 at 1:49 pm to Fun Bunch
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They aren't classified if Trump declassified them.
And they aren't declassified if he didn't follow proper laws and regulations to declassify them.
He can't just wave his dick over them and declare them declassified. It doesn't work that way.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 1:49 pm to NashvilleTider
quote:He is laughing because what you said is probably among the dumbest things that he has ever read on the site.
Mickey Goldmill why are you laughing - that is a fact.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 1:51 pm to NCIS_76
quote:When in LEO executes the search warrant, he is required by law to prepare an inventory of materials taken into possession.
So it’s classified but WSJ is taking inventory of if?
The WSJ obviously has obtained a copy of that written inventory.
This post was edited on 8/12/22 at 2:03 pm
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