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Wouldn’t Hillary’s payments to Fusion GPS also violate campaign finance law?

Posted on 12/12/18 at 1:06 pm
Posted by RidiculousHype
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Posted on 12/12/18 at 1:06 pm
A) they influenced the election
B) they weren’t reported to the FEC

When Schiff said Trump faces jail time for paying Strormy & not reporting it to the FEC, let’s accept that to be true for a minute. How are Hillary’s payments to Fusion GPS any different? Serious replies only please.
Posted by Wtodd
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Posted on 12/12/18 at 1:07 pm to
By the new standard, Trump buying hairspray should be disclosed
Posted by Strannix
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 12/12/18 at 1:08 pm to
Of course they are, and in this case they used ACTUAL CAMPAIGN FUNDs, unlike the mind boggling reach the SDNY is pushing.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 12/12/18 at 1:08 pm to
Trump paid the whore a 150k which is peanuts to the millions the Clinton campaign paid fusion GPS
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/12/18 at 1:08 pm to
It's not influencing the election.

It's influencing the OUTCOME of the election.

The outcome was determined that she should win. She didn't. Guilty
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 12/12/18 at 1:09 pm to
quote:

Trump buying hairspray should be disclosed




Bet that number is Yuuuuge.
Posted by Wtodd
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Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 12/12/18 at 1:10 pm to
quote:

Bet that number is Yuuuuge.

Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 12/12/18 at 1:11 pm to
quote:

Hillary’s payments


She didn't intend to influence the election though... See it is all about "intent"...
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 12/12/18 at 1:12 pm to
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It's influencing the OUTCOME of the election


Influencing the outcome of 2 elections. It will absolutely have an impact on the 2020 election
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 12/12/18 at 1:28 pm to
quote:

Wouldn’t Hillary’s payments to Fusion GPS also violate campaign finance law?


Yes. The big issue though is that Cohen isn't being jailed for that, he's being jailed for lying to Congress.

I think the Dems know they need to avoid the campaign finance violations unless they want Hillary put in deep (where Trump spent a hundred k or so, Hillary spent millions).
Posted by Jbird
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/12/18 at 1:29 pm to
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I think the Dems know they need to avoid the campaign finance violations unless they want Hillary put in deep (where Trump spent a hundred k or so, Hillary spent millions).
The Rexcatur class doesn't care.
Posted by RidiculousHype
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 12/12/18 at 2:57 pm to
quote:

The Rexcatur class doesn't care.


I see one of them downvoted you, but I haven't seen them make a counter-argument.

I'm waiting...
Posted by DaTruth225
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Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 12/12/18 at 3:28 pm to
My guess would be that it wouldn't be considered the same offense.

The payments to hush Stormy Daniels and the other women are considered in-kind donations to the campaign that were not disclosed to the public.

Clinton's Fusion GPS payments were to receive a product or service. The dossier wasn't donated to them they paid for it. So you wouldn't need to report it as a campaign contribution.

What do you think? This is just my guess. I hope this qualifies as a serious reply.
This post was edited on 12/12/18 at 3:29 pm
Posted by Dave England
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 12/12/18 at 3:41 pm to
quote:

When Schiff said Trump faces jail time for paying Strormy & not reporting it to the FEC, let’s accept that to be true for a minute. How are Hillary’s payments to Fusion GPS any different?


I think you are onto something.

lets throw them both in jail.
Posted by PhDoogan
Member since Sep 2018
14977 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 4:49 pm to
quote:

The payments to hush Stormy Daniels and the other women are considered in-kind donations to the campaign that were not disclosed to the public.


SDNY is arguing that it was prohibited corporate contribution to the Trump campaign in the form of a loan by Cohen's shell corporation and was made with coordination of the Trump campaign.

quote:

The dossier wasn't donated to them they paid for it. So you wouldn't need to report it as a campaign contribution.


Payment for the dossier is considered a campaign expenditure made by the campaign and DNC for the purpose of influencing the campaign and would have to be disclosed in HRC's filings. It was fraudulently disclosed as legal fees.
Posted by DaTruth225
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 12/12/18 at 5:18 pm to
Thanks for the clarification. What would be the proper classification for that expenditure? Isn't opposition research usually done through law firms?
Posted by HubbaBubba
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 12/12/18 at 5:21 pm to
Bet your butt salve bill is Yuuge!
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56218 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 5:27 pm to
and the whore was told to be quiet, while Clinton has paying someone to make up stuff

I mean..where do we start?

the media is probably foaming at the mouth, "we got him"
Posted by PhDoogan
Member since Sep 2018
14977 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 6:03 pm to
quote:

What would be the proper classification for that expenditure?


The expenditure description needs to identify the recipient and the purpose. The FEC gives various examples of how expenditures should be coded but probably would have been properly described as consulting vs. legal services.

quote:

Isn't opposition research usually done through law firms?


FOIA-based tradecraft maybe, but not the stuff that Fusion GPS, via Perkins Coie, commissioned ex-Brit spy Steele to do.

While lawyers can hire experts to help present expert evidence for a case, that was not happening here. Below is the link to the FEC complaint against Hellary and the DNC.


LINK

Posted by FT
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Posted on 12/12/18 at 6:57 pm to
Nope. Good try, though.
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