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re: Would you have supported a smaller healthcare reform act, specifically one that
Posted on 7/27/14 at 6:47 pm to Rex
Posted on 7/27/14 at 6:47 pm to Rex
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So, now, what would have been your remedy for people with pre-existing conditions who couldn't afford health care coverage?
If they were able bodied and could work, I would tell them to go get a job with insurance. And, for these purposes, no job with insurance is beneath them.
If they aren't able bodied, I would require them to pay what they could, and have some sort of separate pool for them -- somewhat like Medicaid.
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 6:50 pm to Rex
quote:Would you do a business plan that knows in advance that your company would lose money? What's worse, you don't even know how much you will lose because you don't how much these pre-existing conditions might cost. What is exactly our business background?
merely outlawed insurance companies from discriminating against people with pre-existing conditions?
Posted on 7/27/14 at 6:51 pm to NbamaTiger90
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Preexisting conditions occur the majority of the time because of the lack of personal responsibility.
I have paid for my own health insurance for 20 years to have only start needing it in the past 2 years. I didn't wait till I was already diagnosed with an illness to prepare for how it will be paid for.
Rex just decided that he wanted to retire early at 55. Of course, he wants someone else to pay for his healthcare in the meantime. He could go get a job which would pay for his own health insurance, but that would be beneath him. Especially when he voted for complete scum to force others pay for his healthcare.
Posted on 7/27/14 at 6:51 pm to Rex
Call it whatever else you want, but what you describe is NOT "insurance".
Posted on 7/27/14 at 6:58 pm to Napoleon
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The right hates Obamacare, we have covered that. But the right also thinks it's A-OK for insurance companies to let people DIE
So, let me get this straight. You don't have insurance with Insurance Co. "A". You get sick. You then go to Ins. Co. "A" and want them to pay $100K in benefits even though you have no contract with them, and have not been paying them premiums. You want to agree to pay some minimal amount of premiums that would take 10-20 years to recoup the $100K they've ALREADY put out on you.
And, because the INSURANCE company doesn't agree to your absurd proposition, you say that they are "letting you die"?
Are you insane or just completely f*cking stupid?
Posted on 7/27/14 at 7:01 pm to MMauler
I pay for my own healthcare and always have, Newbomb Turk.
This post was edited on 7/27/14 at 7:03 pm
Posted on 7/27/14 at 7:05 pm to Rex
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I pay for my own healthcare and always have, Newbomb Turk.
Wrong Rex.
Others are now paying for it. You just refuse to admit it.
Get a job Rex. Pay your own damn way and stop expecting SCUMBAG politicians to force others to pay your way.
This post was edited on 7/27/14 at 7:07 pm
Posted on 7/27/14 at 7:05 pm to Diamondawg
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Would you do a business plan that knows in advance that your company would lose money? What's worse, you don't even know how much you will lose because you don't how much these pre-existing conditions might cost. What is exactly our business background?
Precisely why I said such an arrangement would be nonsensical. Keep up or get out.
Posted on 7/27/14 at 7:10 pm to MMauler
Why did you change your nick?
Posted on 7/27/14 at 7:12 pm to Rex
quote:Newbomb Turk got banned on the first Tuesday night of November 2012, I believe.
Why did you change your nick?
As you could imagine
This post was edited on 7/27/14 at 7:13 pm
Posted on 7/27/14 at 7:13 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
As far as I know, Newbomb Turk was never banned.
Posted on 7/27/14 at 7:30 pm to Diamondawg
Yep. Put another way.
I paid about $1000 to my auto insurer last year.
I didn't have to file a claim and the insurance company pocketed the money. Had I had a claim, they would have had to pay out, maybe at a loss.
The insurance company took up the risk on me.
I paid about $1000 to my auto insurer last year.
I didn't have to file a claim and the insurance company pocketed the money. Had I had a claim, they would have had to pay out, maybe at a loss.
The insurance company took up the risk on me.
Posted on 7/27/14 at 7:44 pm to rintintin
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Do you not see your own hypocrisy? You chose not to pay for something that you admit you could've afforded, yet you praise a law that forces people to pay for something, even with increasing costs. You are touting a law that YOU WERE GUILTY OF BREAKING A SHORT TIME AGO!! But now it's convenient for you.
No hypocrisy. I supported a law that mandated everybody buy insurance, including myself.
Posted on 7/27/14 at 7:46 pm to Rex
I would have supported reform that didn't call for forcing someone to purchase a service that by not having it has zero impact on others. It should be the individuals choice if they wish to purchase health insurance or not. was the system broken? sure I don't think anyone would deny that. But what was implemented was like walking up to a burning building and instead of putting it out with water, you poured gas on it. All it has done is make a bad situation much much worse.
Posted on 7/27/14 at 7:49 pm to Ponchy Tiger
You just proposed absolutely nothing.
Posted on 7/27/14 at 7:49 pm to Rex
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No hypocrisy. I supported a law that mandated everybody buy insurance, including myself.
Why do you think everyone should be forced to buy insurance?
If I choose to not buy insurance it has zero impact on you as a individual. Conversely If you choose not to buy purchase insurance it has zero impact on me.
Posted on 7/27/14 at 7:52 pm to Ponchy Tiger
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Why do you think everyone should be forced to buy insurance?
Because it's not really insurance. It's a national safety net program akin to social security.
Posted on 7/27/14 at 7:56 pm to Rex
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You just proposed absolutely nothing.
This is correct, want a cookie?
I never said nor intended to propose anything. I am just common everyday working joe. I don't have all of the solutions to the healthcare ills. What I do know is that people shouldn't be forced to purchase something they chose not to. Not having health insurance has zero impact on my neighbors, that's on me. Now if we are talking car insurance sure, that's totally understandable. I could hit someone and not be able to pay for their damages. But health insurance? If I don't having impacts Rex not one bit.
This post was edited on 7/27/14 at 7:57 pm
Posted on 7/27/14 at 7:58 pm to Rex
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Because it's not really insurance. It's a national safety net program akin to social security.
That's not exactly a ringing endorsement considering the shape social security is in.
Posted on 7/27/14 at 8:00 pm to Ponchy Tiger
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Not having health insurance has zero impact on my neighbors, that's on me....
But health insurance? If I don't having impacts Rex not one bit.
That was true before Congress decided on a national healthcare act, but wouldn't be true now. Since the goal now is universal coverage everyone must participate in order for the model to work.
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